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February 28, 2010 at 9:02 am
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Why do they always make gaijins look so nerdy? >_>
LOL, Yeah they made them look like Otaku, Lol
Do they look nerdy?
I can’t speak for other people, but it looks to me they are made to look as cute and friendly as possible.
I like that they removed the horns, fangs and claws from these Gaijins, makes them less threatening
Hmmm,I didn’t know gaijins had the horns, and fangs and claws.
I am visualizing the Japanese young people acting like the guys on the video. It still does not look like nerdy to me but they would look like cute and friendly couples who started a new life.
They make themselves look as nerdy often enough.
Debito screams of racism and stereotypes in 2 days, 5 hours, and 20 seconds…….
I’ve actually met Debito (he visited a class of mine), and admittedly, I’d thought of him as a crank before. But he was actually very nice, and I didn’t get an ounce of ‘angry’ vibe from the guy.
I guess what I’m saying is try to remember he’s human, and not just some reactionary force that ‘screams’ about everything. Besides, even though he can be a bit much, Japan does need a kick in the ass sometimes to get things done.
This is Debito, the NJ guy right? While I do find him to be a little cynical due to his profession, I can see how he got absorbed in his reseach and became a product of society. People make him out to be like he’s Alex Jones (the 9/11 conspiracy guy) or Hitler.
Come on, he has had some run ins with some Japanese people and he is challenging the legal code and raising awareness of discrimination in Japan. Because of people like him, you can actually enter more restuarants without totally feeling the “gaijin complex”. Now I am not going to say he hasn’t rub me the wrong way in the past, but I will say that he has every right as a Japanese citizen to protest under Japanese legal code.
Debito may or may not scream of racism, but he will just bring it up and leave it be. Mr. James went to a whole new level with it though. I can see why he went after McDonald’s Japan. If Debito wants to write a piece on this CM, then that’s his perogative.
“he is challenging the legal code and raising awareness of discrimination in Japan”
But he cannot write Japanese and he cannot discuss with the Japanese people. He refuse to correct the misinformation.
How does he raise awareness?
The guys on the video and Tony László and his wife are contributing to raising awareness for friendly relations between Japanese and foreigners.
Who are you talking about? Debito is totally fluent and has not problem writing in Japanese. He’s published numerous articles and a few books in Japanese. Further, he knows Japan’s legal ‘code’ (if it can be called such) better than any Japanese-born Japanese that I know.
You must be thinking of someone else.
I am thinking of Debito Arudou.
Sorry,but Debito is not totally fluent; any Japanese who hear him speak know.
Do you know Japan’s legal code enough to judge he knows?
Tell him to write in Japanese on his blog, can he do that? If not why? Isn’t he raising awareness?
He is totally fluent – he may have an accent, but he has no problem communicating intricate or complex points in Japanese.
I have several friends who are lawyers in Japan, and they were ignorant of many points that Debito has made on his blog, just like most Japanese.
He can use whatever language he wants on his blog. About 1/3 of it is available in Japanese, go read it and see.
“they were ignorant of many points that Debito has made on his blog,”
I doubt it.
And sorry, the readers who know Japanese laws would disagree that
he has sufficient knowledge of it.
“He can use whatever language he wants on his blog”
Sure and he has right to his opinion.
But isn’t he raising awareness?
“About 1/3 of it is available in Japanese, go read it and see.”
I read it almost everyday. He cites Japanese articles from newspaper every once in a while but he rarely if ever writes in Japanese. go read it and see.
By the way he does not cite Japanese articles which are not translated into English by somebody else. I wonder why.
“I have several friends who are lawyers in Japan, and they were ignorant of many points that Debito has made on his blog”
I doubt it, and sorry people who know Japanese law would disagree that Debito has sufficient knowledge of Japanese law.
Sure, and he has right to his opinion.
But isn’t he raising awareness?
I read his blog almost everyday.
He cites Japanese articles from newspaper every once in a while but he rarely if ever writes in Japanese.
(And when he cites a Japanese article, it is the article that is already translated into English by somebody else. I wonder why.)
Go read it and see.
The last time Debito posted on his blog in Japanese I laughed out loud at the mistakes. I’m not claiming to be better, but I see a number of basic mistakes that cannot just be attributed to careless or hurried mistypes, but rather are fundamental grammar errors.
Oh, and the blog is hardly one-third Japanese.
So, pointing out someone’s grammatical errors invalidates their points? I guess that would invalidate the opinion of just about every Japanese that has ever written anything in English, eh? Right? Or am I supposed to listen to what they’re saying instead?
That seems to the be thrust of both your and ponta’s posts. Oh my gosh – he made mistakes in Japanese – therefore we cannot understand him! Oh dear!
Posting something that is thoroughly grammatically correct is nice, but isn’t the basis of discrediting someone’s argument.
“pointing out someone’s grammatical errors invalidates their points? I guess that would invalidate the opinion of just about every Japanese that has ever written anything in English, eh? Right? ”
The point is if he wants to raise awareness, write in Japanese.
The fact is that he rarely if ever writes in Japanese and when he writes, his Japanese is not totally fluent as you claim.
Besides, he keeps refusing to correct mistakes on the blog.
That way, he can’t raise awareness,
Lastly, posting imperfect Japanese is perfectly okay.I encourage foreigners in Japan to discuss with the Japanese in Japan.
Can you write in Japanese? Let’s talk.
Many people say Ishihara is actually very nice and didn’t get on an ounce of “angry” vibe from the guy.
Nah, no one says that. Ishihara’s a universal douche, no matter who you are.
Just as some people consider Ishihara douche, some people consider Debito douche.
Just as there are fans of Ishihara, there are fans of Debito.
Just as Ishihara’s fans looks weird to some foreigners, Debito’s fans looks weird to some Japanese.
Debito’s mission doesn’t make sense to mainstream ‘Japanese’ so I don’t expect you to understand him.
You just like to argue, have fun.
Just as Ishiara’s mission does not make sense to mainstream foreigners?
And how can he raise awareness if his mission does not make sense to mainstream Japanese?
Mainstream Japanese would welcome his mission if his mission is to raise awareness of discriminations and constructing more harmonious society for everyone, foreigners included.
But the way he does ….oh well.
Debito understands (as do most) that change isn’t going to come from within Japan. Change only happens here from outside influence, and history back that up.
Hence, his blog is aimed at instruments of change in this country – ‘foreigners’ as you call them.
Ishihara’s mission is scare tactics and racism. He is a useless clown and Japan will be better off without him.
“Debito understands (as do most) that change isn’t going to come from within Japan. Change only happens here from outside influence”
Hmm Is that what Debito is telling you? How absurd!
”history back that up”
No, unless you are talking about the black ships with military force.
Ishihara’s mission is scare tactics and racism. He is a useless clown and Japan will be better off without him.”
As fas as I know Ishihara has never used scare tactics. On the other hand Debito is using scare tactics if what you said above is true.
Besides his blog has a post that tells you how to kidnap. That is scary.
True, Ishihara made hateful gaffe.And Debito’s blog also has hateful statements, and he accepts them while refusing to correct lies.
I object to both of them.
Debito is a useless clown and keep misleading foreigners who can’t read Japanese with little knowledge of Japan. Japan will be better off without his supporters. Of course, if they leave the group and make a fresh start to fight for the minority’s right, working and discussing with other Japanese and minorities, with legitimate method, that will be another story.
No he doesn’t. I not a big fan of Debito’s–I think he damages his own cause because he exaggerates and refuses to acknowledge that the Japan of the present is much less racist and xenophobic than the Japan of the 1980s.
But you, Hamachiman, though you are different from Debito in that you are not self-involved, I don’t think, are very similar to him in the way you stick to one opinion regardless of what the facts may be, and just repeat the same thing over and over ad nauseam. I don’t know if anyone else feels like me, but you are making me nauseous with your constant and fact-challenged lament about how the Japanese are so unfairly accused of whatever it might be.
Well that didn’t nestle right. That was supposed to be a reply to Hamachiman’s comment that: “Debito screams of racism and stereotypes in 2 days, 5 hours, and 20 seconds…”
Huh? What does that have anything to do with my post. My post was a jibe at Debito, who definitely has earned the reputation of being the ‘Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson’ of Japan with his sensationalism and rush to judgement.
And the Japanese ARE unfairly accused a lot, namely by people such as yourself. Whenever this double standard of attacking Japan in the media is mentioned, whenver ANY person DARES to defend Japanese people from generalizations and stereotypes, people like you come out with the ‘you’re just a biased Japan lover’ card.
That is itself most annoying. I wouldn’t doubt you frequent the other Japan related sites filled with Japan haters and stereotypers. This is one of the few that actually has people that understand things from the Japanese people’s side, and that not all of them are racist, xenophobic, ignorant, whale eating, class A war criminal loving thugs.
Sorry Hamachiman, but you really haven’t got my number. Check out the comment below I wrote about this ad, or this post about Debito that I wrote for Japan Probe: Is Debito Still Relevant?
Yeah, they are less threatening gaijins, especially the guy.
He is not attractive or sexy enough to take Japanese girls away from Japanese men.
However, Japanese media got a plenty of good looking gaijins.
On the other hand, absolutely no sexy Asian male stars in American media.
What we got is Mashi-Oka, and that’s it!
Sorry, you’re wrong. Here’s a brief, incomplete list of Asian stars in American TV and movies right now:
- Sanada Hiroyuki
- ‘Rain’ Jeong Ji-Hoon
- Jackie Chan
- Sung Kang
- Ken Watanabe
- Koji Yakusho
- Robin Shou
- Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa
- Jet Li
- Chow Yun Fat
- Ken Leung (Rush Hour, The Sopranos, X-Men, Lost)
- Samo Hunevenly good-looking, but had his own primetime TV series)
- ‘The Rock’ Dwayne Johnson (is half Samoan)
- Rick Yune (Die Another Day, Fast & Furious, etc)
- Will Yun Lee (Die Another Day, Elektra, King of Fighters, etc)
- John Lone
- John Cho (Harold & Kumar, etc)
Are you even watching?
- Phillip Rhee
Japanese media has good looking gaijin males? By what standard? I’ve never seen one. They all look like average guys, with some leaning toward the freaky because they try to look Japanese.
It is funny seeing the Japanese Wal-mart because I work at Sam’s Club. The gaikokujin at least do not look overly nerdy per se. They actually look like they had some of the Japanese commercial mannerisms down.
At least it isn’t Mr. James or Mr. Naruhodo. That is just disgraceful.
The song “Seiyu ni toriaezu ikeya” means “Just go to Seiyu first of all” in Japanese.
And it includes the sounds of “NITORI” and also “IKEA,” the two big furniture chains in Japan.
The foreigners relieve that Japanese pun with their non-Japanese appearance.
“Tokyo KY Life” supposedly means “You can buy anything needed for Tokyo Life within Kyu-sen(9000) Yen,” and I hope you know what the Japanese slang “KY” means, which is the reason they need some privacy.
The first “Kyu” is “Kyu-kon(Marriage proposal),” and the next will be “Kyu-kei(Rest)” and “Kyu-min(Sleep).”
Here is the website. You can play its game.
Yes it is.
My girlfriend was watching this TVCM and started to laugh so much…
She understood it the first time (that’s why she laugh), so i guess pretty much everybody got it as well.
This pun can’t be made by Japanese actors, that’s the point.
Bottom line, nobody is trying to make the foreigners look silly.
Also, it might be a parody of the “happy interior paradise” crap image that Ikea is putting all over its posters & catalogues.
Interesting CM indeed
Why are they foreigners just because they’re white? Isn’t that a bit like calling an Asian person a foriegner in America just because they’re asian?
I should respectfully point out that not everybody shares the American view of nationality. You don’t have to be “from” a place to be treated with dignity and respect, or even to be a citizen of that place. “Foreigner” is fine.
I think most places will agree that if you are born and raised somewhere that is your nationality. If you’re Asian and your parents were raised and born in Japan, but you were raised and born in Great Britain, you are British. Not Japanese. I just don’t like the idea that in Japan white/black skin = foreigner
Not everyone thinks like that. Please look up this term.
”I just don’t like the idea that in Japan white/black skin = foreigner”
I understand your sentiment. And we need to change the perception. But it takes time.
Read the the article weirdo linked.
“”People don’t make a distinction between Asians and Asian Americans,” he observes, particularly when tensions rise over international trade issues. “Asians are portrayed as foreigners, and that gets translated into Asians becoming invader”
Black and white Japanese are much fewer and they have little history in Japan.
The exposure of Japanese people whose parent is a foreigner on media, like a son of Bobby and Becky, will help to change the idea, but it will take time.
Oh c’mon guys, lighten up: it’s just a funny commercial. It brought me back to the days when I first arrived in Tokyo and lived in six-mat room.
Anyway, turnabout is fair play. Asians, particularly the Japanese, have for a very long time been portrayed as nerds in American movies and T.V. programs; Mr. James can’t hold a candle to the nerdiness of some Asian comedy-relief characters on offer in America. And that is a very big improvement over the way Asians were portrayed in the past: as inscrutably evil Fu Manchu types (whether they were Chinese or Japanese) who you wouldn’t trust within a hundred yards of a Western woman.
I like this ad, but I would say its stereotypical somehow.
If you are gaijin in Japan, do you typically live in old-style house with tatami or do you use miniature tables and futons to sleep on floor ? 95% of foreigners don’t do this.
Did anyone pick up on the kanji at the end have been written in a gaijin-like hand? The yen character in particular stood out as it is written in five not four strokes.
The obaachan caught them in the most unpassionate of huga, but I really didn’t need to know that they bought the curtains for their anal sex KY life.
You can find their web page here:
This is a pretty cute commercial btw.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves!You sound like a bunch of children. We know you have opinions and all but maybe you should keep them to yourselves if they are going to be rude. I know that sounds hypocritical but if you think about it it also got your attention. I am adopted and my adopted family is Japanese. Think about all the Japanese and Asian people reading these and about what rude things you are saying about them. If you want to say something be nice not rude. I happen to find Japanese people very nice. Most of the ones I know aren’t racist. As someone else on here said they are just curious. Very sweet and inquisitive. Get over your rude argumentativeness. I am not trying to be rude just fair to other people. And be glad they are only calling you foreigners and gaijins not anything else. I thought the commercial was cute.
o.O didn’t knew they don’t have Seiyu in america~
Costco is way better.
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