Comments on: Foreigners amazed by giant garbage claw http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/ Japan News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:29:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: TXX http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386572 TXX Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:17:17 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386572 ;D much appriciated XD ;D much appriciated XD

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]]> By: goat http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386549 goat Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:03:31 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386549 The male tarento is absolutely atrocious... That 東京ツー joke warrants a major bitchslap. Judging from the Haneda clip, his Japanese doesn't seem all that hot either. Anyone can spew out すげぇ！デカッ！ and 広っ！ Did I detect a French accent? The male tarento is absolutely atrocious… That 東京ツー joke warrants a major bitchslap.
Judging from the Haneda clip, his Japanese doesn’t seem all that hot either. Anyone can spew out すげぇ！デカッ！ and 広っ！ Did I detect a French accent?

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]]> By: Ajapa http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386548 Ajapa Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:14:26 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386548 I could have used the word "gaijin" here to implicitly denote non-Japanese people who may be often confused with "typical" Americans. (I'll not go into more details...) <blockquote>I’d say the closest thing I can think of from the states that is similar to the talento on Japanese TV is some of the infomercials will feature fake audience members in a talk show format who will react with amazement at the awesome product they are trying to sell.</blockquote> Ironically, that must be exactly what I often saw on midnight TV show from the U.S. here in Japan about 10 years ago. I think it became a cult midnight show. I could have used the word “gaijin” here to implicitly denote non-Japanese people who may be often confused with “typical” Americans. (I’ll not go into more details…)

I’d say the closest thing I can think of from the states that is similar to the talento on Japanese TV is some of the infomercials will feature fake audience members in a talk show format who will react with amazement at the awesome product they are trying to sell.

Ironically, that must be exactly what I often saw on midnight TV show from the U.S. here in Japan about 10 years ago. I think it became a cult midnight show.

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]]> By: pixel_bomber http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386546 pixel_bomber Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:23:42 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386546 <blockquote>They did not behave like a stereotypical foreigner</blockquote> Indeed, they behaved like stereotypical Japanese talento. So yea, pointing out they are foreign in the title is misleading I guess especially if some of them are actually Japanese citizens as you said No offense meant here but it's so hard for me to wrap my head around the phrase "stereotypical foreigner". Just hard for me to imagine everyone who is not Japanese being similar enough to be lumped into a stereotype. I'm sure it's something I just don't understand being on the other side of the fence. I mean perhaps it would be more accurate to say "stereotypically non-Japanese" since I guess the only thing they share in common is that they are not Japanese. ;)

They did not behave like a stereotypical foreigner

Indeed, they behaved like stereotypical Japanese talento. So yea, pointing out they are foreign in the title is misleading I guess especially if some of them are actually Japanese citizens as you said

No offense meant here but it’s so hard for me to wrap my head around the phrase “stereotypical foreigner”. Just hard for me to imagine everyone who is not Japanese being similar enough to be lumped into a stereotype. I’m sure it’s something I just don’t understand being on the other side of the fence. I mean perhaps it would be more accurate to say “stereotypically non-Japanese” since I guess the only thing they share in common is that they are not Japanese. ;)

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]]> By: Ajapa http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386545 Ajapa Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:07:17 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386545 <cite>Also I guess the story should have been called “Talento amazed by giant garbage claw”.</cite> They did not behave like a stereotypical foreigner and did not show an "unique" insight as a foreigner to entertain Japanese audiences in the above clips, furthermore, Sahel Rosa who appeared in the previous post is a Japanese living in Japan for more than 15 years and <a href="http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BD%E3%83%B3" rel="nofollow">Kaytlyn Girson</a> (an Australian woman in a brown jacket) seems to have grown up mostly in Japan. Maybe, the only reason to hire "foreigner-looking" reporters is the similarity between the title "東京見聞録" of this Tokyo local reports and "東方見聞録" (Il Milione) by Marco Polo? Also I guess the story should have been called “Talento amazed by giant garbage claw”.

They did not behave like a stereotypical foreigner and did not show an “unique” insight as a foreigner to entertain Japanese audiences in the above clips, furthermore, Sahel Rosa who appeared in the previous post is a Japanese living in Japan for more than 15 years and Kaytlyn Girson (an Australian woman in a brown jacket) seems to have grown up mostly in Japan. Maybe, the only reason to hire “foreigner-looking” reporters is the similarity between the title “東京見聞録” of this Tokyo local reports and “東方見聞録” (Il Milione) by Marco Polo?

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]]> By: Ajapa http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386544 Ajapa Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:22:26 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386544 It's indeed true that in many Japanese TV shows (but not all) there appears many over-reacting talentos. On the streets, there might be many school girls who are often screaming "kawaii" with pointing at worthless things. However, a life in Japan never means spending time in front of a TV nor stalking school girls. Also, these TV reporters might have been asked to behave like such or the clip might have been edited to sound more noisy. And as a minor issue, it is actually foreigners who are supposed to be characterized by over reaction in Japan, and the Japanese are sometimes depicted as an emotionless creatures with (superficial) politeness and calmness by foreign media. It’s indeed true that in many Japanese TV shows (but not all) there appears many over-reacting talentos. On the streets, there might be many school girls who are often screaming “kawaii” with pointing at worthless things. However, a life in Japan never means spending time in front of a TV nor stalking school girls. Also, these TV reporters might have been asked to behave like such or the clip might have been edited to sound more noisy.

And as a minor issue, it is actually foreigners who are supposed to be characterized by over reaction in Japan, and the Japanese are sometimes depicted as an emotionless creatures with (superficial) politeness and calmness by foreign media.

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]]> By: pixel_bomber http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386543 pixel_bomber Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:43:50 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386543 Also I guess the story should have been called "Talento amazed by giant garbage claw". ;) Also I guess the story should have been called “Talento amazed by giant garbage claw”. ;)

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]]> By: pixel_bomber http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386542 pixel_bomber Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:40:52 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386542 "Of course I’m sure on that but “have been in Japan a little too long” should not be mentioned as a direct reason. They are just a “talento” and behaving so." Ah ok, I didn't understand the part you objected to. Saying they have been "talento" too long might be a better way to state it. “Of course I’m sure on that but “have been in Japan a little too long” should not be mentioned as a direct reason. They are just a “talento” and behaving so.”

Ah ok, I didn’t understand the part you objected to. Saying they have been “talento” too long might be a better way to state it.

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]]> By: pixel_bomber http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386541 pixel_bomber Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:38:47 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386541 Yea I meant on television. Back in the states we don't have a lot of variety shows, it's mostly dramas or "reality" shows. You might get some things similar in a reality show but I avoid them like the swine flu. I'd say the closest thing I can think of from the states that is similar to the talento on Japanese TV is some of the infomercials will feature fake audience members in a talk show format who will react with amazement at the awesome product they are trying to sell. So yes the talento format was new to me when I came here and the first thing I noticed is how easily impressed Japanese people seemed to be. Of course then you meet actual people and figure out they are just normal. What a disappointment. ;) As for people on the street, that must depend on what street you are on. I think most people some "normal" as far as their reactions. I don't really know how someone under reacts, I guess it would be hard to notice there lack of reaction unless it was truly an extreme situation. I live in Shibuya now and I can tell you I frequently see Japanese gentlemen with hand help megaphones at Shibuya crossing that seem to be over reacting about something. :) Yea I meant on television. Back in the states we don’t have a lot of variety shows, it’s mostly dramas or “reality” shows. You might get some things similar in a reality show but I avoid them like the swine flu. I’d say the closest thing I can think of from the states that is similar to the talento on Japanese TV is some of the infomercials will feature fake audience members in a talk show format who will react with amazement at the awesome product they are trying to sell. So yes the talento format was new to me when I came here and the first thing I noticed is how easily impressed Japanese people seemed to be. Of course then you meet actual people and figure out they are just normal. What a disappointment. ;)

As for people on the street, that must depend on what street you are on. I think most people some “normal” as far as their reactions. I don’t really know how someone under reacts, I guess it would be hard to notice there lack of reaction unless it was truly an extreme situation.

I live in Shibuya now and I can tell you I frequently see Japanese gentlemen with hand help megaphones at Shibuya crossing that seem to be over reacting about something. :)

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]]> By: Ajapa http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386540 Ajapa Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:36:30 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386540 <cite>I think pixel is referring to how the “talento” react on TV, not in the street. The two are very different.</cite> Of course I'm sure on that but "have been in Japan a little too long" should not be mentioned as a direct reason. They are just a "talento" and behaving so. I think pixel is referring to how the “talento” react on TV, not in the street. The two are very different.

Of course I’m sure on that but “have been in Japan a little too long” should not be mentioned as a direct reason. They are just a “talento” and behaving so.

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]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386539 The Overthinker Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:11:25 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386539 I think pixel is referring to how the "talento" react on TV, not in the street. The two are very different. I think pixel is referring to how the “talento” react on TV, not in the street. The two are very different.

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]]> By: Ajapa http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386538 Ajapa Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:08:55 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386538 Ummm I think they have been in Japan a little too <em>short</em>. It sounds like some of them have <em>not yet</em> mastered the typical Japanese <em>under</em> reaction that I see on every <em>street</em> in Japanese <em>towns</em>. I mean it's just a crane, is it really sugoi? All gaijins and Japanese TV persons are characterized by their over reaction? Ummm I think they have been in Japan a little too short. It sounds like some of them have not yet mastered the typical Japanese under reaction that I see on every street in Japanese towns. I mean it’s just a crane, is it really sugoi?

All gaijins and Japanese TV persons are characterized by their over reaction?

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]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386537 The Overthinker Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:02:02 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386537 "being raised here would mean that they aren't foreigners" No it wouldn't. “being raised here would mean that they aren’t foreigners”

No it wouldn’t.

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]]> By: EternalKnot http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386536 EternalKnot Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:44 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386536 No it isn't. It's just a big crane, innit. No it isn’t. It’s just a big crane, innit.

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]]> By: pixel_bomber http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386533 pixel_bomber Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:13:41 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386533 Ummm I think they have been in Japan a little too long. It sounds like some of them have mastered the typical Japanese over reaction that I see on every show on Japanese TV. I mean it's just a crane, is it really sugoi? Ummm I think they have been in Japan a little too long. It sounds like some of them have mastered the typical Japanese over reaction that I see on every show on Japanese TV. I mean it’s just a crane, is it really sugoi?

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]]> By: Eddie http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386531 Eddie Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:05:24 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386531 A very good point. A very good point.

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]]> By: James Watt http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386530 James Watt Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:34:32 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386530 I know a lot of foreigners whose Japanese is as good and none of them were raised here. " On that note, being raised here would mean that they aren't foreigners. I know a lot of foreigners whose Japanese is as good and none of them were raised here. ”

On that note, being raised here would mean that they aren’t foreigners.

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]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386529 The Overthinker Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:29:48 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386529 Let's rephrase this: "You only get good at the language by living there long-term and moving outside the gaijin comfort zone, AND if you study hard....." Let’s rephrase this:

“You only get good at the language by living there long-term and moving outside the gaijin comfort zone, AND if you study hard…..”

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]]> By: Ajapa http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386526 Ajapa Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:03:33 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386526 But we hear no typical gaijin reaction from reporters such as "Oh my god", "Wow!", "Oh, yes...", "Whew", etc. The Japanese guy responds to reporters as "Yes" and "Oh..." in the second clip instead. Small but important progress to Japanese media. Maybe, their mission is just to kill loneliness at sunset (it's a part of an evening news). But we hear no typical gaijin reaction from reporters such as “Oh my god”, “Wow!”, “Oh, yes…”, “Whew”, etc. The Japanese guy responds to reporters as “Yes” and “Oh…” in the second clip instead. Small but important progress to Japanese media. Maybe, their mission is just to kill loneliness at sunset (it’s a part of an evening news).

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]]> By: William George http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386522 William George Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:16:38 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386522 Dorkiness aside... That crane is pretty impressive. Dorkiness aside… That crane is pretty impressive.

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]]> By: William George http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386521 William George Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:15:09 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386521 <blockquote>You only get good at the language by living there long-term and moving outside the gaijin comfort zone, or if you study hard.</blockquote> Thank god we have survival phrases!

You only get good at the language by living there long-term and moving outside the gaijin comfort zone, or if you study hard.

Thank god we have survival phrases!

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]]> By: NipponBoy http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386507 NipponBoy Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:19 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386507 Is really strange to see a white girl behave and speak perfect Japanese and they are so gorgeous. From the Japanese aspect this is a dream come true and I suppose for all japanese men. Is really strange to see a white girl behave and speak perfect Japanese and they are so gorgeous.

From the Japanese aspect this is a dream come true and I suppose for all japanese men.

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]]> By: Darien Shields http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386502 Darien Shields Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:24:48 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386502 Anyone else think this looks like th perfect location to weather a Zombie Apocalypse in? Only one easily monitored easily defended entrance and plenty of potential escape routes (thank God zombies can't swim). Anyone else think this looks like th perfect location to weather a Zombie Apocalypse in? Only one easily monitored easily defended entrance and plenty of potential escape routes (thank God zombies can’t swim).

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]]> By: kaito http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386500 kaito Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:54:25 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386500 They are probably haafu. Someone in their family is Japanese. Or they have lived in Japan a very long time. Like born/raised in Japan. They are probably haafu. Someone in their family is Japanese. Or they have lived in Japan a very long time. Like born/raised in Japan.

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]]> By: helical http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386499 helical Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:55:29 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386499 Giant trash cranes, cool. Tunnel facilities, cool. Annoying reporters, not cool. They were less annoying than the time they went to Haneda airport, but still it's like they were forbidden by the directors to stop talking or think for more than a second before vocalizing what goes through their minds. Giant trash cranes, cool. Tunnel facilities, cool. Annoying reporters, not cool.

They were less annoying than the time they went to Haneda airport, but still it’s like they were forbidden by the directors to stop talking or think for more than a second before vocalizing what goes through their minds.

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]]> By: RMilner http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386498 RMilner Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:41:46 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386498 Of course not. Most foreigners in Japan are tourists or on contracts with international companies. They pick up survival phrases, maybe a bit of everyday conversation.. You only get good at the language by living there long-term and moving outside the gaijin comfort zone, or if you study hard. Of course not.

Most foreigners in Japan are tourists or on contracts with international companies. They pick up survival phrases, maybe a bit of everyday conversation..

You only get good at the language by living there long-term and moving outside the gaijin comfort zone, or if you study hard.

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]]> By: Amy http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386489 Amy Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:12:15 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386489 I would assume they were probably raised in Japan (or are haafu) and grew up spoking the language of the country they report in and Japanese. I would assume they were probably raised in Japan (or are haafu) and grew up spoking the language of the country they report in and Japanese.

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]]> By: Tornadoes28 http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386485 Tornadoes28 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:15:23 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386485 I'm impressed. That's pretty damn cool. I’m impressed. That’s pretty damn cool.

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]]> By: me http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386483 me Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:46:20 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386483 So today, do all foreigners in Japan speak Japanese this well now or what? I'm about 10 years out of date. So today, do all foreigners in Japan speak Japanese this well now or what? I’m about 10 years out of date.

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]]> By: Roppongi Health http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386480 Roppongi Health Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:00:38 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386480 Blonde gal so cute. Where Japanese tv finds those cute gaijins ? Blonde gal so cute. Where Japanese tv finds those cute gaijins ?

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]]> By: Montsan http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/11/21/foreigners-amazed-giant-garbage-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-386479 Montsan Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:19:26 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=14187#comment-386479 Appreciate the heads-up on the pun. Still made me want to curl up in the corner and weep openly, but appreciate it nonetheless. Appreciate the heads-up on the pun. Still made me want to curl up in the corner and weep openly, but appreciate it nonetheless.

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