Cute Japanese Halloween vs. scary American Halloween

Why, then, after carefully noting that Halloween is a holiday but not a public holiday, did you list two public holidays that are not “traditional” holidays in your listing of Japanese holidays? Compare like with like, please – which is why I made my comment about Presidents’ Day.

No. Your initial post was the one that mentioned Ocean Day and Respect for Elders Day. You draw a disctinction between artificial government-imposed holidays and traditional holidays in your reply to longus, yet in your initial post you listed two government-imposed holidays in a discussion about a tradional holiday. That is my point. And I have no idea why you consider it a straw man.

Christmas is a religious holiday, that in Japan is more about dates and the Fat Man in the Red Suit driving a red Toyota (i.e. assimilated in Japan). —

first of all its not a relligious holyday in Japan.(unless you are living in a chritians comunity)

Neither is “fat dude in red clothes” a holy bishop Saint Nicholas (its a Coca Cola old fart fantasy giving gifts around and pretending of being the Sain Nicholas. to see him driving in a toyota car doesnt make him a religious or representance of Christmas.) Nor do japanese get together in the christian churches and celebrate the brith of Jesus Christus. so it is a very long way from being a religious or “assimilated”.

@The Overthinker

you are wrong about Christmas (wich is Jesus Christ birthday in a first matter.)

and you are right about integration of pagan holydays into own relligious calendar.

aside that i agree with aussie.

@pixel_bomber

dude. again japanese celebrate the New Year Holidays the christmas (wich is a part of this NEW YEAR holidays ceebration) is only a very small part of original christmas tradition. (giving gifts and being with family)

in my opinion the only holyday wich is realy assimilated and developed at perfect in Japan is the Saint Valentine’s Day.

—I am not wrong. Christmas was not the birth of Christ, nor did the holiday originate with Christians.–

whahahahaha hahahahah.. seriously why are you trying to sell apples by colouring them orange?

“Christmas (pronounced /ˈkrɪsməs/), also referred to as Christmas Day, is an annual holiday celebrated on December 25 that commemorates the birth of Jesus of Nazareth.”

Try this site as well, which is Christians arguing that celebrating Christmas is an unChristian thing to do….
http://www.ucg.org/issues/gn43/bornchristmas.htm

Christmas doesn’t exactly correspond with the Winter Solstice (which was a Roman holiday) as it is a couple of days later, but there is a reason for that (and it has nothing to do with Christ, any Bible scholar will tell you what few clues are in the New Testament point to him being born in the spring): under Jewish law, a baby boy was taken to the temple 7 days after birth for circumcision.

The Feast of the Circumcision is a Catholic high holy day – back in the old days it was one of those days where everyone was effectively required to attend Mass. The Feast of the Circumcision is January 1st (7 days after Christmas). New Year’s Day predates Christianity and was another day of drunken revelry in pre-Christian Rome.

By sticking Christmas on the 25th the Catholic Church managed to effectively co-opt two pagan holidays with one deity. Smart scheduling.

LB – also, mucking about with calendars will likely have changed the date of the winter solstice.

Christ, really? Well, thank Christ for that then….

Numerous Biblical scholars have concluded that, from the scant evidence in the Bible, Christ would have been born in the spring, or possibly the autumn, but certainly not winter. That is if he was really born at all, which is a matter of doubt.

Oh, can you actually present any evidence Christ WAS born on Christmas Day? Anything from the Bible, that is, not later attributions, which (as I have demonstrated) are not accurate.

You are way out of your depth here….

…as a daily trip to the toilet.

I don’t know … I could describe those times when long-awaited relief arrives as being quite a euphoric experience

I’m now worrying about helical, hoping that helical did not mistake that part as “…as a daily trip in the toilet.”

no birth celebration = no relegious and official holiday = no fat guy in red clothes = no gifts and wishes in a name of Jesus Christ and get together.
Quite incorrect. You may want to read up on what you talk about before commenting next time.

Christmas was a winter festival.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#History
We owe the fat man to Coca-Cola
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

The eloquence of your riposte floors me. But then what else to expect from someone with the screen name of “longus dickus”? —

that is comming from “the overthiker”. lol..

—-And don’t forget that YOU responded to something that *I* posted, not the other way around. You are the one dragging this out for no obvious reason.—-

i responded nothing. i just dont let you being an arrogant arsehole who think the last word makes his blabering being the truth..

dude.. Christmas is still a winter festival.–

revision! in the southern hemisphere its a summer festival.

Now you are simply lying. You did respond to me, and the proof is there for all to see—

lol.. still trying to say the last word?

My ego is not that fragile.–

seriously, i do not care about your ego.

–However if you like I assure you I will not say anything more in this particular thread. No need really.–

i like you doing that. if you dont need anyway.

Actually valentines day did have a beginning in old european pagan tradition. It was celebrated in Rome because it was believed that day birds found thier mates. As we all know birds are a pair bonding species like us (though we are still evolving into it, we still have some legacy behaviours). From that Doves became the symbol of love not only because they pair bonded but they died of old age within minutes from each other. If they could survive untill then of course. Any bible scholars will tell you a few thing about christmas. 1 Jesus might not have even existed. 2 if he did he was born in the summer. December the 25 was chosen to coincide with another Roman pagan holiday of a winter feast. They chose that day so pagans can relate to it. Though modern aspects of those traditions are brought to us by businesses who want to make some money. Why not, we still need to buy some people stuff but now getting laid is basicaly a sure deal so bottoms up.

Take care mate!

It must be true. However, the interest is rather in the mutually auxiliary nature of these two simplified remarks here, although it is a mere assumption. Not actually in how well it reflects the reality, on the presupposition that most people do not care about it really seriously.