Oh well then I’m glad you RENOUNCE sharia law and the Hadiths. Why don’t you go to Mecca for your pilgrimage and share your gender equality with all the male Muslims there. Oh…..I forgot……….only male Muslims are allowed to go to Mecca. If you went there and told them that they were wrong about gender justice they’d kill you for apostasy.

Qur’an (2:282) – Establishes that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man’s in court (there is no “he said/she said” gridlock in Islam).

Qur’an (24:4) – “And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them…”

Qur’an (24:13) – “Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.”

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (5:59:462) – The background for the Qur’anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.

I was born Muslim–

personaly i loled my arse off…

Trufax,

What your copy and pasting is what SHIAA is advertising. SHiaa call them self muslims, but they are not. They are 99% of Iranians and Iraq, they kill Muslim Sunna, read more before you talk none since.

All what said here about islam is wrong. totally misleaded.

Am muslim, my wife works, go Mecca, Wear Victoria secret .

really we lough on people that believe they got knowledge from net and from T’V, they others want you to believe. Want the truth ask real Muslims.

Feel sry for you trufax, and will only call you Liefax

Ah, what fun. “No, those people aren’t true Muslims/Christians/Jews/Buddhists/Mormons/Disney Fans, as I don’t agree with them and I am a true whatever.”

You can talk about “the internet” all you want. I own 3 copies of the Qu’ran and Hadiths. As I said, all one has to do is open the Qu’ran and find the passages.

Call terrorists extremists, but they find numerous clearly written passages in the Qu’ran to support their actions. They don’t rely on ambiguities.

Muhammad was a warlord, a conqueror and he coveted followers. The only thing he coveted more was his 6 year old wife. You can practice your taqqiya (religious deception) but anyone that would try to contradict these well established historical facts, only comes off as foolish.

James is trying to use up his free translation points before they run out, perhaps…..

You are using the typical misdirection that Islamic apologists always use. A non-Muslim need read no further than the Qu’ran and the Hadiths (Muhammad’s later teachings).

You apologists always talk about “real Islam” despite the fact that every school of Islam teaches Jihad. EVERY SCHOOL! The Qu’ran has 164 passages calling for jihad against non-Muslims, your religion provides the death penalty for women that marry outside of it.

Why don’t you teach everyone here about jizya, the existence tax? I’m sure they’d be interested to know that the Qu’ran, in requiring jihad, also provides that opponents shall be given the opportunity to convert to Islam or pay an existence tax while living as second class citizens.

As I said, your false claims about the peacefulness of Islam are such a sham it isn’t even funny. In fact, your behavior even has a name in Islam; Taqiyya. The Qu’ran teaches that lying to non-Muslims about Islam, if it advances Islam, is honorable.

Taqiyya is the outright lie. Kitman is the half-truth. Yes, there are “two” peaceful passages in the Qu’ran. However, the 164 later jihad passages calling for Muslims to conquer non-Muslims until everyone in the world is a Muslim or a slave to Muslims, abrogate those two whole passages.

Again, anyone that doesn’t want to believe me or doesn’t want to blame this lying Islamic apologist, can easily settle this for themselves. They can pick up the Qu’ran and Hadiths and learn. They can look at all the honor killings of women in Islam, all the 10 year old girls dying during pregnancy in Islamic countries, at the executions and oppression of anyone trying to practice another religion in an Islamic country and so on.

Islam today is exactly as it was 1,400 years ago when the sex and death freak Muhammad “retconned” Islam and Christianity into something that would appear to uneducated males.

dear sir,
Jizya is paid to get protections and safety from the state and they can keep and practice their religion. Compared to Romans and Persians conquering any land by killing the men, eldery people, tear down trees, burn the houses and chapels, and raping women.. isn’t that an obvious comparison.. no it’s a divine comparison, why not pay the jizya and you can keep your land, house, chapel, your woman, your kids, and your religion, and above all muslims will protect you, for keeping your religion and your honor..!
i’d like to thank you for bringing that up, because that’s a great topic to show that islam is a religion of choice.
and thanks again for encouraging people to read the Qur’an, i’d love to see everybody reading the Qur’an , especially to read the explanatory Qur’an to get the real meaning of each phrase.

And by the way, there’s no second class in islam.

Thanks

Your Taqqiya practicing cohorts tell me that what the Qu’ran says, isn’t what the Qu’ran says. But you come in and help me prove it by trying to justify jizya.

If you think being offered three choices by Muslims shows how wonderful it is, you’re a fool because we’re not buying it. Forced conversion to your religion, death or an existence tax?

On one hand you claim to be the religion of peace despite the fact your religion has wiped out more culture than anything else in human history. On the other hand you freely admit the concept of jizya, embodied in the Qu’ran.

The “second-class” citizenship status you claim doesn’t exist, also has a word. Are you practicing more taqqiya/religious deception? Dhimmitude is the word you can’t seem to remember. Do you honestly expect us to believe that it is a purely benevolent concept?

What happens when a dhimmi runs out of money to pay their existence tax? Can a dhimmi build a church or synagogue? Islam looks more favorably upon Christians and Jews because they are people of the book an d have received some of Allah’s revelations, but how does Islam regard religions such as Buddhism?

I won’t use my words to describe jizya, I’ll use your scholars. That way you can’t claim I am a “misunderstander” of Islam.

“On the day of payment {of the jizya} they {the dhimmi} shall be assembled in a public place like the suq {place of commerce}. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall be placed above them and shall adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. (Al-Maghili, quoted in Bat Ye’or, The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam, 361.)”

Paying money to Muslims for the right to live, so long as the Muslim tolerates us and so long as we have money, is no way to live. As with any real free person I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

“Some people just really amaze me”

Yeah, you really amaze me too.

Why, thank you kind sir.