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Illegal fishing – Koreans violate Japanese territorial waters

September 17th, 2009 by James

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Asahi TV reports on the growing problem of South Korean vessels that are illegally fishing in Japanese territorial waters:

South Korean fishermen have depleted their own coastal waters, so now many are sneaking into Japanese waters to catch more crabs and eel. Some are caught and have to pay fines, but the rewards are so great that they just go back and continue their illegal activities.
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Japanese coast guard vessels can easily spot buoys that fishermen usually use to mark the location of traps, so the Korean fishermen use their GPS systems instead. There are also fishermen who sometimes cut or abandon their nets in order to quickly flee from authorities. This creates a risk that they may be lost and become “ghost fishing nets,” which do considerable environmental damage.

The area shown in the news report is off the coast of Shimane Prefecture, a poor area of Japan with little industry other than fishing. The illegal activities of South Korean fishermen and South Korea’s refusal to abide by a 1999 agreement to allow Japanese fishermen into the waters around the Korean-occupied Liancourt Rocks have made the local government very frustrated. Under these circumstances, Shimane has been quite vocal regarding the territorial dispute with Korea.



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Comment by jc
2009-09-17 06:59:16

On the one hand, South Koreans regularly disrespect international history, illegally occupy a pair of barren islands, and then file grievances against Japan for trying to assert rightful sovereignty.

On the other hand, they do many things to intentionally damage their neighbors across the sea, dumping garbage overboard and destroying Japanese fisheries.

Absurd activities like these make me want USA to just nuke South Korea out of existence.

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Comment by pcurve
2009-09-17 08:11:51

Gotta love idiotic blanketing statements like this. The fact that you’re even thinking about the notion of the U.S. using a nuke against another country speaks volume about your feeble mindset. Grow up pal. I love coming to this site, but comments like this just make me cringe.

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Comment by ij487i
2009-09-17 09:08:45

question: how does S. Korea “regularly disrespect international history”?

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Comment by The Overthinker
2009-09-17 10:46:46

Every time they insist the correct name of the Sea of Japan is – in English, mind you – the East Sea, and blame Japan forcing the name on the world, when the world in fact quite happily decided independently that it was going to call the body of water created by the archipelago of Japan the Sea of Japan.

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Comment by ij487i
2009-09-17 12:41:21

I guess you have a point; however, in the case of Dokdo/Takeshima (in reference to jc’s comment) I wouldn’t entirely blame South Korea for pressing the issue, as Japan is just as adamant in maintaining its position.

The way I see it, neither side has a greater claim on the islets over the other (though FWIW they are geographically closer to the Korean peninsula).

In a perfect world, however, these people would realize that since there happen to be two rocks and two claimants, if you give one to Japan and call it Takeshima and the other to Korea and name it Dokdo then everyone would be happy.

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Comment by James
2009-09-17 13:18:43

In a perfect world, however, these people would realize that since there happen to be two rocks and two claimants, if you give one to Japan and call it Takeshima and the other to Korea and name it Dokdo then everyone would be happy.

Or, better yet, both Korea and Japan could place the case before the International Court in the Hague and allow a third party with no stake in the territorial dispute to decide which country has a legitimate claim to the islets.

 
Comment by The Overthinker
2009-09-17 13:30:14

The Korean position on taking it to the Hague is based on 1.5 things: thy consider that doing so will admit that it is disputed, rather than saying the dispute is all on Japan’s side – that is, it would give legitimacy to Japan’s position. The rest of the argument is that since Japan refuses to do the same thing with the Senkaku islands, and take the same position Korea does re the Liancourts, Japan is being two-faced.

That’s just a summary of their position as I understand it – I haven’t actually done any research into the Japanese stance vis-a-vis Senkaku and the Hague.

ij487i – I like your idea about the rocks. But then who gets the bigger one?

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Comment by ij487i
2009-09-17 14:31:02

Japan, since the smaller one (with more usable land, apparently) would be more amenable to the currently residing Korean couple and the forty some odd police officers charged with protecting them

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Comment by The Overthinker
2009-09-17 14:42:25

And then we can build the Bridge of Peace and Friendship connecting the two…..
Would be fun to propose to get the reactions.

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Comment by Dr.Yu
2009-09-18 02:56:42

“In a perfect world, however, these people would realize that since there happen to be two rocks and two claimants, if you give one to Japan and call it Takeshima and the other to Korea and name it Dokdo then everyone would be happy.”

Would Japan accept to do the same with the diaoyu island? Give to China half the island and than, everybody is happy?

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Comment by The Overthinker
2009-09-18 10:26:01

Sure – the bottom half.

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Comment by Mike
2009-09-17 09:17:43

South Korean fisherman are in Japanese waters, so the United States should “nuke South Korea out of existence”? Makes as much sense to me as most of the arguments on here I guess.

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Comment by klimmer
2009-09-17 11:07:21

Whats on the other hand?

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Comment by Dave Faulkmore
2009-09-17 09:08:24

Cease their ships and then deport the occupants. Make them pay for the deportation cost.

For added laughs you can fine them, but don’t give their ships back. Over time losing ships will make them hurt a little.

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Comment by Mike
2009-09-17 09:14:36

“Cease”…it doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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Comment by The Overthinker
2009-09-17 10:47:29

I think the Koreans should seize and desist….

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Comment by HamachiMan
2009-09-17 09:19:22

I doubt the Dodko brigade would care too much about these illegal maneuvers. Just bring out the old World War 2 atrocity card and all is good.

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Comment by steve
2009-09-17 09:34:04

I remember how much the US was pissed at Japan for doing the same thing for the same reasons off the Alaskan coast. Though that was 20 years ago, part of me wants to say karma’s a bitch.

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Comment by The Overthinker
2009-09-17 10:49:08

A small part, hopefully, as otherwise it implies that people cannot learn from their mistakes.

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Comment by steve
2009-09-17 10:57:23

Yes, the other part of me thinks that the fisherman in Shimane have nothing to do with the Bearing Sea and that karma should leave them alone.

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Comment by VonSkippy the Troll
2009-09-17 10:34:31

Maybe the Korean’s are just doing “fish research”.

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Comment by klimmer
2009-09-17 11:09:16

For that statement, I wish there was a “like” button.

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Comment by Mr. USA
2009-09-17 15:10:15

“Whale research” is done in international waters though.

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Comment by hgfktku
2009-09-17 12:06:00

lol.russians get japanese and koreans illigal fishers all the year.

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Comment by Canadian
2009-09-18 00:15:04

This is very true.

Rule #176 of diplomacy = Don’t mess with Russia too much

I do have to give a positive credit to South Korea for having a better relationship with Russia than Japan, despite President Lee is very problematic right now.

Japan should make full peace with Russia for the sake of not indirectly angering China, including the “Chinese” me.

Peace with Russia = good for Japan

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Comment by Togu
2009-09-17 15:38:14

why do korean related issues have so many comments lol

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Comment by helical
2009-09-17 15:42:35

Just be glad this isn’t about Korean Whales …

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Comment by Mike
2009-09-18 09:58:09

What’s wrong with fat Korean chicks?

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Comment by Dr.Yu
2009-09-18 03:04:11

Why a fishing proglem between Japan and Korea is classified as “anti-Japan” subject in this blog?
Fishing disputes exist everywhere and it has nothing to do with racism, xenophoby or nationalism. This is more a diplomatic or geographical issue.
Besides, Japanese government seems not to be concerned about this issue.

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Comment by helical
2009-09-18 03:38:57

Uh, if the Japanese government really wasn’t concerned about it, they wouldn’t have the coast guard going out and catching the fishing boats to make them pay fines.
They’re just not advertising to the world that they’re doing it, which seems to be the opposite way of Korea is going about handling the Liancourt Rocks issue.

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Comment by Dr.Yu
2009-09-18 04:07:01

They don’t’ make it public because this is a minor issue that happens everywhere. Korea for instance has problem with the Chinese, even having a cost guard officer killed by illegal fisherman, but they also don’t make it public because it’s a diplomatic issue to be solved by the government of both countries.
So my question again is why this issue is labeled as anti-Japan subject when it’s clearly a diplomatic issue? Actually I think it should be labeled as “anti-Korea” subject.

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Comment by helical
2009-09-18 06:21:15

It was probably labeled anti-Japan based on the observation that Korea not honoring the 1999 agreement about fishing around the Liancourt Rocks, all the while invading Japanese waters to fish (and using environmentally damaging methods) is hypocritical and shows a degree of contempt for Japan and agreements with them.
But I doubt the individual fishermen doing the actual crossing of the borders have anything to do with the barring of Japanese fishermen from around the Liancourt Rocks, so I do agree whether to call this “anti-Japan” is a bit contentious.

And Japan is just arresting and fining intruders so it’s not anti-Korean at all.

The “anti-” would creep in there only if the assumption was made that the Korean fishermen were invading Japanese waters because they think Japan is beneath them, and/or Japan is arresting the Korean fishermen only to be mean to them. Both of which is plausible but somewhat doubtful.

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Comment by Dr.Yu
2009-09-18 09:40:55

You have great imagination ….

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Comment by Metrogirl13
2010-03-02 02:08:39

This is between Japan and Korea. Why not let them deal with it and you can focus on your own country? Then Maybe, Just maybe, we can save our world. Or do you want to die prematurely? Get your own life. Sure if it was some war casing problem I could understand but I don’t get what you peoples obsession with lives that aren’t yours is. Really. I am not trying to be rude but judging other countries isn’t helping save the entire world.

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