Japanese men sit down to pee
The TV Tokyo program that introduced the foreigner learning traditional Japanese manliness from an ouendan also contained a brief segment on how Japanese men sit down at toilets to urinate instead of peeing from a standing position. In 1999, only 15% of Japanese men claimed they sit down to urinate. By 2007, almost half of the male population were answering that they sit down to pee!
The panelists on the TV show lamented this change as a sign of how manly Japanese men are becoming a rarity. An increased percentage of single men living with their parents and a higher rate of saving income were also cited as examples of increases in unmanliness.
I have posted about this issue in the past, but this video is a bit different. The 2007 Fuji TV program blamed wives for the change, while this TV Tokyo program blamed mothers. Apparently the trauma of being scolded as a child has made many men unable to assume a standing position before toilets.
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If I pee standing, half the time I’d make a stinky mess, spraying yellow water over the toilet and onto the floor. And then I’d have to clean and sanitize the toilet.
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You should learn how to pee if you can’t make it into the bowl. It’s not that difficult. I think an occasional miss is normal, but not means to sit down to pee. Plus sitting down takes more time!
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A whole five or ten seconds. Although I suppose how much of a concern that is depends on how much of a hurry you are to get back to whatever it is you were doing.
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Haha, LRN2PEE. I only sit down if i’m also taking a number two or feel really lazy.
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oh the shame……
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I actually just recently started peeing sitting down. I got tired of having to clean up my own mess. I never thought of it as being something not manly… it is just so much cleaner.
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I pee standing up and never get it anywhere apart from in the toilet.
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I don’t agree that’s it’s “not manly”, I just think once you have your own toilet to clean and walk in – and if you, like me, hate wearing slippers which never fit – then a lot of men probably realise it’s easier just to sit.
Nothing to do with my mother or my other half either. Amazingly I came to that conclusion by myself. *shock*
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Less of the work, none of the mess. I sure wish everyone at my dorm would sit down and pee. That or at least clean up after themselves!
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Either put a scope on your penis to improve your aim or just start wearing a dress and carrying a purse.
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both methods seem like too much work, so why not sit down.
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I wonder if they factored age into their survey. Maybe more men sit down because they’re getting older and tired of standing up all the time.
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God they are so feminine
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座りションの何が悪い！
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Hehe, made me laugh, thank you! Surely Kusanagi said that?
But I don’t really understand the ション part, I also noticed this in the clip. My dictionary hast no entry for that word as well.
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I often miss the bowl altogether, leaving a spray of foul-smelling orange broth covering both sides of the walls, the back of the toilet, as well as those poxy ‘toilet slippers’. I then fail to flush the toilet, don’t turn the extractor fan on, and fart on the way out.
I am the most ultimate man. Ever.
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I don’t know why standing up to urinate makes one more manly. That being said, my husband pees standing up and doesn’t make a mess. Some of the commenters here must have a serious depth perception and aim issue.
People make a big deal and read things into the smallest things.
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some people’s piss comes out spraying especially if it’s not circumcised. our penises aren’t all designed the same way.
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Pull back the skin before you go, its not hard.
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yeah, obviously that has been tried as well. still comes out spraying.
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Japanese people are sometimes precise and methodical in what they do, most of the time. So how can they not pee well standing up?
They must have tiny penises. How else can you not control a hose coming out of your own body?
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Maybe there’s also been an increase in Western-style toilets in public restrooms?
Either way, standing or sitting doesn’t really matter. I’d be more worried if Japanese men suddenly felt compelled to go to the bathroom in groups.
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Who would actually consider sitting down on a public toilet seat? At nice hotels, I might, but unless they have the alcohol gel to wipe on first or a paper covering of some sort, I think I’ll keep on standing to pee at the stations, cafes, restaurants and most other places. The only seat I’d trust to be clean would be the one at home.
It really has nothing to do with being “manly” or not, whatever that means, but certainly does have to do with cleanliness, and it seems many of these pee-sitting men kinda have it backwards.
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This is the end……….. my only friend, the end………….. tra la la la……..
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I’m more worried about the idea that “saving more” = unmanliness. Personally, I’m not a big fan of manliness, but I hate the idea of encouraging reckless spending to maintain any sort of image (be it “fashion” or “cutting edge geek” or “manliness”). I know the government (that is, the corporations who control the government) want people to spend more and save less, but it strikes me as particularly distateful to link positive gender identity to bad personal financial policy.
And I’ve been sitting to pee since I was in college (over 15 years now)…I never thought of it as having any connection to gender identity–only to cleanliness and privacy (when you don’t have a urinal, standing and peeing is a bit more, um, obvious).
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My BF pees in sitting down because he is addicted to the Toto douche feature.
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Unless your BF is douching out the end of his dick, he’s a girly man just like all the other sit-downers
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The fact that your boyfriend likes to douche himself is cause enough to doubt his manliness.
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Having helped put two young girls through toilet training, I can assure you that sitting down != cleaner.
I was AMAZED at what sort of firehose range and ferocity women are capable of.
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You had to have kids to figure that out? I figured it out when I was 15 and my gf could spray halfway across the room.
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My aim is like Golgo 13, but…
At home, I stand up.
If I’m at a home where there’s a woman, I sit down. This is because I don’t want to listen to them squawking endlessly if I forget to put the seat down.
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I do that. But that’s when I have an erection and can’t aim well.
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ARISE YOU MEN! DONT LET YOU COMMAND HOW TO USE THE LOO!!! ARISE YOU MEN! YOU PISS IS YOURS!!
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Just when you thought you had a firm grip on what being a man was all about…
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Why not just pee into the shower? A little burst of water cleans it right up! For a bit of releasing your bowels, take some laxatives. Who can say that they don’t enjoy a little slip n slide now and again?
Seriously, buy some. Drink, inject, snort some laxatives.
While their still legal.
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This is more related to a Japanese obsession with hygiene than it does with masculinity.
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That is education to sit down and pee.
I am a guy and not gay but very straight and very religious christian too but not fanatic. My wife is German and we have 3 kids where 2 are boys and the youngest is girl. We have taught to the boys to sit down when they pee as is education and not stand up as they may spread dirty urine in the path.
My opinion is that all men on earth would do that but I think we have major issues than that but at least educated family members have to pee when they sit down.
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“they may spread dirty urine”
Pee (unless you’re ill) is clean and sterile. It’s only after it sits around for quite a while that it picks up germs and then becomes stinky (because to bacteria – it’s a smorgasbord of food ingredients – and the odour is caused by bacteria breaking down those chemicals).
So all those people who squirm at fresh pee – get over it – it’s WAY cleaner then the spit thats in the mouth of the person you kiss.
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My penis is always hard and upright right after getting up, peeing while standing enables me to do away with washing my face in the morning.
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What an intelligent debate.
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I think the new trend in Japanese TV is unmanly Japanese men.
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What’s all this talk of “i sit down to put because i don’t want to make a mess”? Jesus Christ people, are you missing hands? Are you blind? Just grab the damn thing and point! It’s not that hard. Jeez…
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def. do u pple have any aim whatsoever? this video is shocking and takes away any self respect and any manliness these blokes had.
standing and peeing is manly, sitting down is downright feminine.
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Aiming right for the middle of the water will cause chaotic splashing and frothing, with possibly little droplets flying out in a radial fashion in all directions.
Aiming for the toilet/urinal wall at a steep angle off the surface close to vertical is a recipe for disaster, and will cause even more droplets bouncing off the solid surface in every which way in comparison to a fluid surface.
The trick is to aim at a solid surface at a shallow angle, so that most of the urine will adhere and glide along the wall in a laminar flow, and the distribution of the vectors of any airborne droplets will be tight and closely match the direction of the main flow concentrated in a directed cone rather than a radial explosion from the point of impact.
Thus the best way to reduce any unwated splashing and dirty messes is to aim for a wall area close to the water at a shallow angle, so that most of the urine will glide down immediately into the pool, and the cone of droplets will also be directed towards the water surface. If it starts frothing, you’re doing it wrong.
As you can see, I’ve thought this through quite extensively. I feel so manly right now…
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That actually read like a college paper.
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“a steep angle off the surface close to vertical”
Depends entirely on how and where you aim. Given that the stream is travelling at a close to vertical anyway, you want the impact angle to be as close to zero as possible, as you note. So you need to select the ideal surface to aim for based on your output.
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Whups, I meant “perpendicular”, not “vertical”.
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The other day I went to an after party at a teacher’s house, and he asked us to pee sitting down so it would be easier for him to clean in the morning.
/facepalm
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Peeing standing up has a chance of making a mess, whereas sitting down does not. However, when you’re in a public toilet or something, it’s more sanitary for you to stand up.
But in terms of “manliness,” this issue is 100% arbitrary. There is no rational explanation whatsoever for the notion that peeing standing up is more manly than doing it sitting down. People who think so are either stupid or deranged, or both.
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No, no. You see, when women act like men, that’s called “empowerment.” When men act like women, that’s called “emasculation.” So a woman wearing trousers is okay, but a man wearing a skirt is a Scot. In fact the name “Scotland” came from an old English jibe about the maniless of the Highlanders – It was known as “skirt land” originally. This so annoyed the Skirts, or the Scots, that they took to wearing their skirts (which they called a “kilt,” as in “I jest kilt me a Englishmoon!”) sans underwear to prove at a moment’s notice, or when the wind was particularly strong, that they were real men.
And in terms of making a mess – what are wives for, then?
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…it’s more sanitary for you to stand up.
Not neecessarily. As sitting down gives much less opportunity for the necessary shake at the end, there is a significant risk of depositing one or more dewdrops on the floor — or even on the seat, Heaven forbid — upon standing. Unless you get some tissue and wipe like a girlie, too.
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hahaha, I must admit that I’ve done this on occasions. Does anybody watch Curb Your Enthusiasm? Larry David does it too…he fell in the toilet when his wife left the seat up.
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I’m such a man that I even shit standing up.
But, seriously, I’ve never had a problem getting my urine stream to go in the bowl, but that’s not what people are talking about when they say sitting is cleaner. It isn’t that their pee stream doesn’t go in the bowl, it’s that 1) if you pee into the water, some urine splashes out, and 2) if you pee onto the porcelain, some urine rebounds out. It isn’t a whole lot. If you aren’t the one who cleans the toilet, you probably wouldn’t notice. But if you *do* clean the toilet, you’ll find that there’s usually a light misting of urine around the base.
Personally, for me, old habits die hard, so I pee standing up, but then I swipe down the area around the toilet (at home, of course, not when using public toilets).
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The real issue is, actually, what the man does AFTER peeing. Look into websites of Japanese toilet manufacturers like TOTO or INA and you might find reports of how the urine is sprayed onto the walls and floor and even the man’s own pants when the man twirls or shakes his penis when he finishes. The best way to prevent this is to wipe the penis with toilet paper — but that means using more toilet paper and it’s not environment-friendly.
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“it’s not environment-friendly”
This is a joke, right?
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Well, this continues the evolution of Japanese men into becoming women. They sit to pee, and now shave their eyebrows.. you can’t get more sissy than that..
Wonder if this has anything to do with the tons of money Japanese people have invested in making their toilet seats more comfortable.
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I have to admit, sitting down to pee is, in my mind at least, a little feminine.
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Fuck sitting to pee. Maybe we should chop our dicks off, too. Women sit to pee and still piss on the seat some fuckin how. Stop emasculating men. It is just penis envy more than it is not wanting to clean a mess. A man needs to clean up after himself if he makes a mess and not act like a little boy, but being able to stand and pee is a gift, don’t throw that gift away. I will rather be called a barbarian than a sissy and obediant anyday. Women need to sit, not us. Should men also paint their toe nails and wear lipstick, would that make you happy and say…he’s so cultured and educated, progressive and modern. Later you will bitch and say there are no men anymore when you made them women. Bob Newhart out..
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Peeing while sitting if you are a man…weak…obediant..woman with a penis
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