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	<title>Comments on: 11-year-old accidentally allowed to vote in Japan &#8211; her vote will remain valid</title>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/08/31/11-year-old-accidentally-allowed-to-vote-in-japan-her-vote-will-remain-valid/comment-page-1/#comment-372404</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the article: &quot;The &lt;b&gt;11-year-old elementary school girl&lt;/b&gt;, who visited a poll station in Osaka’s Nishi-Yodogawa Ward with her &lt;b&gt;father&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

Reading comprehension - it&#039;s important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the article: &#8220;The <b>11-year-old elementary school girl</b>, who visited a poll station in Osaka’s Nishi-Yodogawa Ward with her <b>father</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading comprehension &#8211; it&#8217;s important.</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if that&#039;s her in the picture she is NOT tall for her age</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if that&#8217;s her in the picture she is NOT tall for her age</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/08/31/11-year-old-accidentally-allowed-to-vote-in-japan-her-vote-will-remain-valid/comment-page-1/#comment-371490</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you know that there are a few people out there who don’t read signs and don’t put stuff in the right place.&quot;

Indeed.  Well, at least this 11-year-old could apparently figure out how to cast a valid vote with a piece of paper, which puts her ahead of a lot of Floridians...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you know that there are a few people out there who don’t read signs and don’t put stuff in the right place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed.  Well, at least this 11-year-old could apparently figure out how to cast a valid vote with a piece of paper, which puts her ahead of a lot of Floridians&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blacknimbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blacknimbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not from Chicago, are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not from Chicago, are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the 11-year-old girl is together enough to rig an election. At least they didn&#039;t make a huge deal out of the one vote and recount everything.

In America there&#039;d be lawsuits and hearings and recounts and in the end the election would probably be invalidated because of one mistaken vote. Go USA...not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the 11-year-old girl is together enough to rig an election. At least they didn&#8217;t make a huge deal out of the one vote and recount everything.</p>
<p>In America there&#8217;d be lawsuits and hearings and recounts and in the end the election would probably be invalidated because of one mistaken vote. Go USA&#8230;not.</p>
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		<title>By: bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that her in the picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that her in the picture?</p>
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		<title>By: BS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*it = is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*it = is</p>
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		<title>By: BS</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/08/31/11-year-old-accidentally-allowed-to-vote-in-japan-her-vote-will-remain-valid/comment-page-1/#comment-370910</link>
		<dc:creator>BS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ve ever done any kind of large paperwork work with a lot of people you know that there are a few people out there who don&#039;t read signs and don&#039;t put stuff in the right place.

What I&#039;d be more concerned about it the ¥50,000 the workers make at the polling stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve ever done any kind of large paperwork work with a lot of people you know that there are a few people out there who don&#8217;t read signs and don&#8217;t put stuff in the right place.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d be more concerned about it the ¥50,000 the workers make at the polling stations.</p>
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		<title>By: ChibiR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChibiR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I somehow felt reminded of those stories about the boarding pass issue at US (and maybe elsewhere) airports (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2113157/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt; for an example article), where you could fly on somebody else&#039;s ticket because not everything (check ID, compare it with boarding pass, scan boarding pass) is/was done at the same checkpoint. Here we have a second table almost blindly giving out documents to whoever made it past the first table, which sort of makes me ask: ...why do they even need two tables? Adult people should be smart enough to get ALL the voting material at the first table and then just put them into two different containers. Maybe there is a valid reason for having to do it this way, but then they should&#039;ve taken care to somehow avoid such slip-ups. (Yes, yes, it&#039;s almost impossible to cover every possibility, and you don&#039;t want to completely inconvenience your voters, I know... =/)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I somehow felt reminded of those stories about the boarding pass issue at US (and maybe elsewhere) airports (<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2113157/" rel="nofollow">see here</a> for an example article), where you could fly on somebody else&#8217;s ticket because not everything (check ID, compare it with boarding pass, scan boarding pass) is/was done at the same checkpoint. Here we have a second table almost blindly giving out documents to whoever made it past the first table, which sort of makes me ask: &#8230;why do they even need two tables? Adult people should be smart enough to get ALL the voting material at the first table and then just put them into two different containers. Maybe there is a valid reason for having to do it this way, but then they should&#8217;ve taken care to somehow avoid such slip-ups. (Yes, yes, it&#8217;s almost impossible to cover every possibility, and you don&#8217;t want to completely inconvenience your voters, I know&#8230; =/)</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two different ballots, see my post below.  You vote for the district candidate, then you get another ballot and vote for the party of your choice for PR, then you leave.  There is usually a &quot;maze&quot; you have to walk through if the voting center is large.  If it is small, it is easy to just keep an eye on people as they wander through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two different ballots, see my post below.  You vote for the district candidate, then you get another ballot and vote for the party of your choice for PR, then you leave.  There is usually a &#8220;maze&#8221; you have to walk through if the voting center is large.  If it is small, it is easy to just keep an eye on people as they wander through.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is they verify the voters at one table, and hand out the district seat votes there.  After casting that ballot, voters go to another table where they get the proportional representation ballot and the Supreme Court Justice ballots.  She walked in with her father, who was registered, they checked him gave him the district seat ballot and waved him through.  After casting that ballot he went to the next table with his daughter, they passed him a PR ballot and, seeing who they thought was another adult, they passed her a ballot as well.

Now yes, the crew at the second table screwed up but it wasn&#039;t their job to verify the registered voters who had been verified at the previous table and already cast their ditrict seat vote.  And why dad or the girl didn&#039;t say anything I don&#039;t know...

I suppose the solution would be to not let any non-verified people past the first table, but she was a kid under the care of her father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is they verify the voters at one table, and hand out the district seat votes there.  After casting that ballot, voters go to another table where they get the proportional representation ballot and the Supreme Court Justice ballots.  She walked in with her father, who was registered, they checked him gave him the district seat ballot and waved him through.  After casting that ballot he went to the next table with his daughter, they passed him a PR ballot and, seeing who they thought was another adult, they passed her a ballot as well.</p>
<p>Now yes, the crew at the second table screwed up but it wasn&#8217;t their job to verify the registered voters who had been verified at the previous table and already cast their ditrict seat vote.  And why dad or the girl didn&#8217;t say anything I don&#8217;t know&#8230;</p>
<p>I suppose the solution would be to not let any non-verified people past the first table, but she was a kid under the care of her father.</p>
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		<title>By: lmshea</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmshea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Can anyone just walk in anytime anywhere and vote? I mean, do they check ID at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Can anyone just walk in anytime anywhere and vote? I mean, do they check ID at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me wonder about the whole election process in Japan in general.  If this happens in one area, then it&#039;s bound to happen in other areas.  What other mistakes have been allowed to slip through that didn&#039;t make the news?

Shouldn&#039;t identification have been checked prior to her being allowed to vote, not just for eligibility verification, but to verify that the she hadn&#039;t already voted?  Or is it all based on an honor system, that the same person won&#039;t vote multiple times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me wonder about the whole election process in Japan in general.  If this happens in one area, then it&#8217;s bound to happen in other areas.  What other mistakes have been allowed to slip through that didn&#8217;t make the news?</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t identification have been checked prior to her being allowed to vote, not just for eligibility verification, but to verify that the she hadn&#8217;t already voted?  Or is it all based on an honor system, that the same person won&#8217;t vote multiple times?</p>
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