Japanese foreign minister complains about lame scene from Indiana Jones movie

“It’s not that big of deal; if it’s funny, laugh, if it’s not, ignore it.”

Funny how no one seems to follow that advice when it comes to Blackface… but 70,000 people being vaporized and long-term casualties reaching upwards to 200,000 — hell, laugh it off.

The fact that you compared a group of Christian pedophiles showcased on SOUTH PARK to 1 million Jews systematically being executed in front of their families clearly demonstrates your character and your level of understanding. I mean really. It’s really no surprise.

No offense.

@Dave: I don’t see how WWII was a war against shared values, as it was largely the Aryan myth that rallied the masses into expelling from the world “The Others”, and Rosenberg based the Nazi ideology on the “religion of the blood”. I’d consider that mentality largely founded on shared values; the idea of “us” and “them”, which also happens to be the first defining characteristic of a “genocide” according to the U.S. Department of State. (http://www.genocidewatch.org/8stages.htm) So it was a war to establish one superior set of shared values and eliminate all others.

The Jewish holocaust is no sadder than any other holocaust, but it holds particular weight in the historical chain of events as it was the first massive-scale genocide the world had seen since it adopted a new world view that holds the idea of “crimes against humanity”. It was an eye-opener, basically.

But even us Jews claim it as the worst. It hits the closest to home for us, but it’s not the only one we see in the media. Rwanda, Sudan, Croatia, Ethiopia, the Kurds in Iraq, Cambodia – These are in the media all the time. To this day you’ll still see news on the BBC of former Khmer Rouge leaders finally kicking the bucket. But Hollywood loves to make movies about WWII because we are Hollywood.

Saying that the Jewish holocaust wasn’t the worst and implying that, therefore, it should be dismissed isn’t very logical at all. But Ahmadinejad would definitely love to have you over for a cuppa.

Oh, and Supercoolmanchu – It was nearly six million of us that were killed off, not one million.

@Aceface: Your argument about the Koreans being killed in the blast doesn’t hold any water, because the Koreans were there primarily as a result of forced labor policies enacted by the Japanese colonial empire. If anything you’re only fueling the flames of opposition.

Inferiority complex? Isn’t funny that among dozens of commentators making fun of this situation you simply decided me to attack? A Korean?
If you don’t agree with me just say so. No personal attacks please.

“Isn’t funny that among dozens of commentators making fun of this situation you simply decided me to attack? A Korean?”

So which one are you using?A “race”card? or”victim” card?
You are being selected because of your frequency of the post and the personality behind them and not much else.

“If you don’t agree with me just say so. No personal attacks please.”

That I’ve already did.But do take them personal,because that’s what I intended.

“however they moved because of famine and extreme poverty Korea was facing at that time under Japanese colonization.”

No.There were always famine and extrreme poverty exist in Korea before the colonization and after.It dissapeared only in the south of 38th parallel in the last three decades.But still exist up in the north.

“But this issue has nothing to do with the subject here, unless Aceface wants to keep revolving around it.”

Well if you say so.But you are the one who always connects history and unrelated subjects and keep revolving them around.

“The point here is that Dr. Jones survived a nuclear blast because of a fridge and Nakasone is about to sue Hollywood because of it. Well .. if this becomes a trend than Obama should sue Japan because of Godzilla, Power Rangers, Evangelion, …”

That’s not the point,since Nakasone has no intention of “sueing Hollywood because of it”,or at least for the moment.
Don’t know about Power Rangers,but Evangelion has nothing to do with A-bomb.And Godzilla’s main theme was exactly about horror of nuclear weapons.

My advice.Think before you type.

Number one.Japan proper was hit particularly hard by the Great Depression because Japanese government was making Japan from agrarian economy into an export-based economy where in many part of the country,especially the North East prefectures were founded solely on rice.

Number two.Japanese empire build railways and passenger ferries for the sake of empire and nothing but,However some Korean youth born as third or fourth eldest sons in the peasant family took advantage of the situation by moving to the center of empire where they heard you can make more money and took the opportunity insead of staying in the Korean country side where you have no opportunity what so ever.

Number three.Researchers like Lee Yong-hoon of Seoul University thinks most of the “famine”related description on the Korean text books are fabricated and need to rewritten much more accurately.
Now,neither Lee and I’m saying Japanese “did”good thing to Koreans.However,colonization had the side of modernizing the colony and development of all dimension of human life living there.Not that legitimize the Japanese colonization,which is why every single Korean President demands apology to Japanese prime minister at the summit and they get one,only to bitch that the apology wasn’t “real” or “sincere” or whatever.

“My comment to Alex was just an observation, not an attack to Japan.”

That is for me to decide.

“Stop revolving around this subject. We are talking about a movie, not history.

Well,”He is smart. By no means he would waste this chance to play the “Victim” card again.”This is not about neither Harrison Ford or Steven Spielberg is it not?
And both you and I(and Nakasone originally)wasn’t talking about movie.

What we have here is a classic situation pot meets kettle as Alex had described.One paranoiac meets another.
But one thing,you know,you are the one who constantly shows up here and leaving annoying comments.Now the road goes both ways for the first time.

I apologize for what my country did to your country from bottom of my heart,but to make this sounds more sincere I have to be fully honest about how I feel about you to prove that I’m not lying to myself.

One:tI think that you are confused person who has very little to offer even on internet.

Two:Never had I bash Koreans as “irrational and emotional”.It’s the contrary.You are the one accusing me for being irrational and emotional and I fully accept the criticism.Still that doesn’t change any of my opinion about you.

Three.Is Alex,a Korean by any chance? And I hack on pretty much anyone.Korean,western or even your nemesis on this blog,Ponta.

Four:OK,that’s what the Power Rangers look like.
So how does this connects with the A-bomb?
And this question leads me back to One,that I think you are confused person who has very little to offer….

Sorry to interrupt in this heated debate, but wasn’t Japan building an entire industrial infrastructure in addition to making Korean an agricultural export economy?

I believe most of those factories were concentrated in the northern half of the peninsula, which is why immediately following the Korean War and the split, the North was considered to be better off and people who believed in communism flocked to the “paradise on Earth” … to their chagrin and demise, if I may add.

“No. Would it have mattered if I was?”

@Alex:Probably to our dear doctor.I guess.

@helical:The empire invested in Korea for the sake of empire.Not for any other reasons.
However,Japan had offered numerous assistance to South Korea since 1964.Something that is missing from the memory of everyone in Korea on this subject.

And on naming names:Things can be emotional when someone criticize me for my secret attachement to blonde women.But hey,Its my problem.None of yours……

Aceface,
I wasn’t implying that Japan built the infrastructure just to be nice. And besides, Korea WAS Japan at the time anyways, so the Japanese empire was investing in itself. Nothing unusual about that.
I just wanted to point out the statement by Alex way back that “Japanese colonial powers forced Korea from an agrarian economy into an export-based economy founded solely on rice” isn’t entirely accurate.

“Korea invited Japan to help them fight back against European colonial powers encroaching on Asia, and they requested Japan (the strongest Asian power) to help in the Pan-Asiatic movement against Europe.”

Pan-Asiatic movement against west had existed before the Sino-Japanese war of 1895 and during the World War 2.But after the Russo-Japanese war,the only colonial power that was encroaching peninsula was Imperial Japan.

“Japan was invited to Korea but overstayed their welcome as their power became overwhelming in the region.”

There were “groups”who wanted Japan to back them up for reform and Korean monoarchy had always swift between Tokyo and Moscow and Beijing.But nonetheless Japan entered into Korea with or without an invitation card,or so says in the memoir of Mustu Munemitsu”蹇々録”,who was minister of diplomacy at the time of First Sino-Japanese war.

These descriptions would never pass the guidelines of Ministry of education and science,Alex.

Awwwright,I’m calming down now.And I take back what I said about you being isolated from Japanese conventional wisdom,Alex.
So please be kind enough to me to put me out from the same cage with the dear Dr.

So what is your take on Nakasone.Apart from being surprised by the lack of awareness of the fictional movie genre.He is pretty acculate on awareness of the weapon of mass destruction genre to my ears….

“But how does criticizing a movie meant to be an unrealistic fictional adventure at all add to the conversation?”

Here’s basic fact of what happened.Nakasone was on his way to make trip to four nation.Three of them related with nuclear proliferation.He was about to visit New Zealand and Australia.NZ is the nation that prohibited U.S vessel coming into their waters with nuclear armaments and thus ostracized from ANZUS treaty.They are the real hard core No-nuke states.Kevin Rudd of Australia is also a politician who made nuclear non-proliferation,the key policy of his administration.He even started his first official visit from Hiroshima last year.And Nakasone’s next stop was Iran.
Tokyo just invited Iranian foreign minister in the beginning of april to talk about nuclear proliferation and this is the continuation of the bilateral dialogue.

Nakasone was making this speech before he starts his grand-non-proliferation tour also mentioning praise for Obama’s initiative toward non-nuclear world and urges China to reduce the production of nuclear weapons.Also he mentioned on North Korean nukes.He then mentioned on how the world is not understanding fully the threat of nuclear weapon to the human civilization and quoted one scene of Hollywood movie he saw WITHOUT naming it’s title.

AFP reporter then interviewed MoFA official and found out the very movie was nothing but the latest installment of Indiana Jones franchise.So the reporter made up a story in the only form foreigners would accept,just another toungue-in-cheek wacky Japan story.”J-official making fuss over Indiana Jones movie”.

You and Dr.Yu can use your imaginations fully and question Nakasone’s motivation either he’s playing victim over Hiroshima or doing this for the purpose of electioneering or anti-freedom of expression(WTF?)as you like.But that just isn’t the case,I’m afraid.

Take my advice.It’s the context that is important when you read and analyze the news.Not your prejudice.

God bless web 2.0.We’ve got a brave new world coming……

Well,it’s both yes and no I guess.
“Yes”for the sake of freedom of speech and “No” for the franchise does referrs to the hardships that the blind face in life,so like Nakasone,you should quote without naming it’s title.

Anyway you will admit that AFP not only spinned but cooked the event into totally different format….