Japanese foreign minister complains about lame scene from Indiana Jones movie
Yes, Mr. Nakasone, I think we can agree that the above scene from “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” was pretty stupid:
“There was a scene in a hit movie last year in which the famous hero, facing a blast from a nuclear test, hid in a refrigerator,” Foreign Minister Hirofumi Nakasone said in a speech against nuclear weapons.
“I was surprised by the movie’s lack of awareness of a nuclear bomb blast. A nuclear explosion destroys everything in an instant. I felt concern that this kind of easy-going image might spread around the world.”
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If only Hiroshima had had more fridges…
(Yes, I know, awful, but I couldn’t stop myself)
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If only Auschwitz had had moer Gas mask…
How do you feel if you hear that kind of joke?
Please stop and behave yourself,at least when you’re in Japan-related web-site.
Many Japanese lost their kinfolk in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
They have tried to get over that for a long time.
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Or maybe you can just learn to laugh a little. I don’t find anything about either of those two jokes (fridges and gas masks) offensive.
Ever watch South Park? Even as a Catholic, I laugh and enjoy the endless poking at Christianity and the jokes about evil people and child molesters in the Catholic church. It’s not that big of deal; if it’s funny, laugh, if it’s not, ignore it.
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“It’s not that big of deal; if it’s funny, laugh, if it’s not, ignore it.”
Funny how no one seems to follow that advice when it comes to Blackface… but 70,000 people being vaporized and long-term casualties reaching upwards to 200,000 — hell, laugh it off.
The fact that you compared a group of Christian pedophiles showcased on SOUTH PARK to 1 million Jews systematically being executed in front of their families clearly demonstrates your character and your level of understanding. I mean really. It’s really no surprise.
No offense.
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Lets clear up this misunderstanding.
Why was the holocaust different from other genocides?! Was it the sheer number of people killed?
No!!
There have been larger genocides in the past.
Was it because a particular group of people was being targeted?!
No!!
There have been genocides going on for ages.
WWII was not a war against the Jews. It was a war for a return to nihilism. The return to law of the jungle. It was a war against the shared values which religions promote. This is what made WWII especially horrible.
For the liberals out there, imagine a new Bush vote rigging into office every “election”.
For Jews, just imagine a new Jimmy Carter every four years.
For fiscal conservatives, just imagine another Bush or Obama every fours years.
For Republicans just imagine Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton on the same ticket and their campaigning lasting longer than the OJ Simpson media fiasco….In full volume…All the time…Same jokes over and over again…
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@Dave: I don’t see how WWII was a war against shared values, as it was largely the Aryan myth that rallied the masses into expelling from the world “The Others”, and Rosenberg based the Nazi ideology on the “religion of the blood”. I’d consider that mentality largely founded on shared values; the idea of “us” and “them”, which also happens to be the first defining characteristic of a “genocide” according to the U.S. Department of State. (http://www.genocidewatch.org/8stages.htm) So it was a war to establish one superior set of shared values and eliminate all others.
The Jewish holocaust is no sadder than any other holocaust, but it holds particular weight in the historical chain of events as it was the first massive-scale genocide the world had seen since it adopted a new world view that holds the idea of “crimes against humanity”. It was an eye-opener, basically.
But even us Jews claim it as the worst. It hits the closest to home for us, but it’s not the only one we see in the media. Rwanda, Sudan, Croatia, Ethiopia, the Kurds in Iraq, Cambodia – These are in the media all the time. To this day you’ll still see news on the BBC of former Khmer Rouge leaders finally kicking the bucket. But Hollywood loves to make movies about WWII because we are Hollywood.
Saying that the Jewish holocaust wasn’t the worst and implying that, therefore, it should be dismissed isn’t very logical at all. But Ahmadinejad would definitely love to have you over for a cuppa.
Oh, and Supercoolmanchu – It was nearly six million of us that were killed off, not one million.
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“But even us Jews claim it as the worst.” I meant that to say, “But even us Jews don’t claim it as the worst.”
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I was surprised by the Mr. Nakasone’s lack of awareness of the fictional movie genre. He should be more concerned about the space-aliens living in ancient tribal kingdoms and how they might affect our children.
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I have little respect for Nakasone, but I think he does have a point. Most movies ought to have disclaimers; we know they’re full of nonsense, but a lot of people tend to believe that they’re historically accurate.
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You mean like the disclaimer that says “The events depicted in this movie are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental.” thats on every single fictional movie released?
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Hollywood can’t take responsibility for the stupidity of others. C’mon.
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Well, it did mark the start of the cold war (gedddittt???)
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I had the same reaction when i saw this awful movie. Spielberg tried to trivialize nuclear blasts, may be to make it acceptable for use againt Iran? Their was high tension with Iran when the movie was released. Spielberg is a jew after all, he’s all behind Israel and I remember he said he was for Obama then he choosed Clinton, what a bloody hypocrite, i bet he voted Mccain.
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You’re talking about the same director who made Empire of the Sun and Munich – I think Spielberg knows all about the horrors of war, the tragedy of the nuclear bomb, and Israel wasn’t too pleased with his perspective of the Munich events.
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The US army used to do lots of nuclear survivability drills. They would sit down a big group of soldiers miles away from a blast, tell them to look the other way, and then set off a nuke. Yes, this was done on American soil, and yes, this was done with real US soldiers.
So It’s not like a fission detonation makes things evaporate no matter how far away they are or what they are made of. The intensity of the effects of a blast diminish at a cubic rate as you move away from the point of detonation. I don’t think the movie specified the distance between the town and the nuke.
It’s worthwhile to remember that the human destruction in Japan was so bad because of the construction style of most japanese buildings at the time: wood and paper. The blast of a fission explosion creates two immediately devastating phenomena: tremendous heat, followed by a tremendous pressure wave due to air expansion. That refrigerator in the movie was probably the most heat and pressure resistant object in a whole town. Considerably better than the stick-frame homes in the model town, and many times better than the wood and paper homes common in Japan during WW2.
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Have to agree with Matt, because it’s true.
Nuclear bombs are not magic balls of total matter anihiliation.
Read about Project Orion in any detail and you learn some amazing facts about nukes. Project Orion was the plan in the 50s and 60s to design a spaceship propelled by nuclear blasts, obviously if nukes disintegrated stuff, it would be insanely stupid. As it was it was insanely brilliant, and parallel research is still ongoing, at least on paper.
Tests of pusher plate materails were actually done, and it was found that nukes barely take a thin layer of skin off metal spheres placed just 10 meters or so from the bomb. Of course it blasts them downfield a kilometer or more.
They even planned to launch the ship, from the ground, with nuclear blasts! Then all the knowledge about fallout and cancer and such scrapped thsoe ideas.
The silliness in the scene is the more simple physics in that Indy wasn’t turned into a pile of chunky salsa inside the fridge from being thown around like that.
But the scene of Indy staring up at the mushroom cloud was actually kind of beautiful. Of course I knew that some Japanese would bitch about it.
But anyway, politicians bitching about nukes isn’t exactly preventing their proliferation in North Korea and Iran at the moment, is it? In fact, it’s the exact opposite, politicans trying to negotiate with these countries to not make nukes is just giving them more time to make it a fait accompli. 1 Iranian nuke + 1 North Korean intercontinental missle = 1 EMP over the USA and a new Dark Age.
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ITS JUST A MOVIE!!
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did he barely see the movie?
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Don’t let him see Independence Day.
Better keep him away from Roland Emmerich completely…just to be safe.
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And then he dies from radiation…
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Nope, doesn’t die from radiation – old fridge is incased in lead. Movie remember. Hollywood = imagination; kind of like Manga, Nakasone should consult with Aso on this
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how stupid does this guy think people are? it is a movie for crying out loud. you should not believe everything you see in movies.
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no cancer? no way
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Recycling scenes from the first Back to the Future script draft isn’t a good idea.
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He is smart. By no means he would waste this chance to play the “Victim” card again.
It’s just a movie, not a praise of atomic weapons.
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Wait,What “victim”card?
Japan does commit itself in abolition of nuclear weapon for not having one for itself.
I’ll send you that phrase right back at your face next time J-studio makes film on brave Kamikaze pilots.
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Easy. You are making this emotional.
It’s just a movie.
Just relax and enjoy it.
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“making this emotional”,Check.
“It’s just a movie”,Check.
“Just relax and enjoy it”.Check.
You’ll be seeing me using these phrases in reply to your future posts.Dr.Yu.
If there’s one thing I agree with Ponta,is that you are one of those prick who use history to bash Japan to fulfill your petty inferiority complex.Your comment wasn’t about “the movie”.
It was about Japanese politician and “victim” card.
Do you want to know just a tiny bit more trivia on the world war 2 that you are so eager to preach us Japanese all the time in this comment section EVERY-SINGLE-TIME the topic pops up?
A-bomb also killed Koreans on that day on August 6 in Hiroshima and at least 2600 Koreans died because there were no refrigerator to hide.If you want preach history to others,you better learn a bit more before you do,Doctor.
And no.I didn’t enjoy “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Crystal Skull”.The series should have stick with the occult format instead of Sci-fi.
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@Aceface: Your argument about the Koreans being killed in the blast doesn’t hold any water, because the Koreans were there primarily as a result of forced labor policies enacted by the Japanese colonial empire. If anything you’re only fueling the flames of opposition.
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No,Alex,I disagree.
Number one.I don’t buy guns-don’t-kill-people-people-kill-people logic.It’s the bomb that killed Koreans,otherwise they’ll be still around running pachinko parlors.
Number two.Not every Korean was forced to be in Japan.Some voluntarily came to Japan for various reason they don’t want to admit after 1945.Hiroshima was a port that connects the continent and Japan proper.There were Korean community with or without wartime mobilization of labor.
Number three.Nakasone isn’t Dr.StrangeLove,who happens to stop worrying and begin to love the bomb.Makasone doesn’t love the bomb and that’s why he is worriying.And under current situation surrounding Japan,you may heard some news on North Korean’s building nukes and tested missiles just fly over our heads,diplomatic minister of Japan should rightly be so.
Now the point is,if this is some other countries,most if not all,statesmen would first think about building nuke for themselves.
And considering Nakasone belongs to conservative political party we know as LDP,and is the son of Yasuhiro Nakasone who is probably the most right wing politician we had in the last forty years.With that in mind,I think his response was pretty moderate.
Personally,I think Japan should have a nuke to survive in this rough neighborhood.But if this is the kind of response I get from right-wing politiician,than my dream will never make the day.
And what does everyone in this forum react?”It’s just a movie,”
“Stop acting emotional,”.The same birds who make noises around the most minor trouble regarding Japan and outside world.
Well,if there is one button that make us all emotional,this is it.And you just pushed them.not just once but multiple times.
Nuclear threat to Japanese IS very real.So it has been,and so it will be.
And lastly number four.Who needs to fuel the flame of Dr.Yu anyway.We all know by now that he is a hater who consistently dropping by to share his hate.Koreans in colonial times who suffered under Japanese rule fought for the freedom for their people.And Dr.Yu is wasting this freedom earned at the cost of the generation he probably doesn’t belong.
Talk about blasphemy.
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Inferiority complex? Isn’t funny that among dozens of commentators making fun of this situation you simply decided me to attack? A Korean?
If you don’t agree with me just say so. No personal attacks please.
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Alex,
Aceface is not absolutely wrong, since some Koreans in fact moved to Japan voluntarily, however they moved because of famine and extreme poverty Korea was facing at that time under Japanese colonization. After Japan capitulation most of them returned to Korea but others remained in Japan because Korea was still a devastated land.
But this issue has nothing to do with the subject here, unless Aceface wants to keep revolving around it.
The point here is that Dr. Jones survived a nuclear blast because of a fridge and Nakasone is about to sue Hollywood because of it. Well .. if this becomes a trend than Obama should sue Japan because of Godzilla, Power Rangers, Evangelion, …
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“Isn’t funny that among dozens of commentators making fun of this situation you simply decided me to attack? A Korean?”
So which one are you using?A “race”card? or”victim” card?
You are being selected because of your frequency of the post and the personality behind them and not much else.
“If you don’t agree with me just say so. No personal attacks please.”
That I’ve already did.But do take them personal,because that’s what I intended.
“however they moved because of famine and extreme poverty Korea was facing at that time under Japanese colonization.”
No.There were always famine and extrreme poverty exist in Korea before the colonization and after.It dissapeared only in the south of 38th parallel in the last three decades.But still exist up in the north.
“But this issue has nothing to do with the subject here, unless Aceface wants to keep revolving around it.”
Well if you say so.But you are the one who always connects history and unrelated subjects and keep revolving them around.
“The point here is that Dr. Jones survived a nuclear blast because of a fridge and Nakasone is about to sue Hollywood because of it. Well .. if this becomes a trend than Obama should sue Japan because of Godzilla, Power Rangers, Evangelion, …”
That’s not the point,since Nakasone has no intention of “sueing Hollywood because of it”,or at least for the moment.
Don’t know about Power Rangers,but Evangelion has nothing to do with A-bomb.And Godzilla’s main theme was exactly about horror of nuclear weapons.
My advice.Think before you type.
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Korea was hit particularly hard by the Great Depression because Japanese colonial powers forced Korea from an agrarian economy into an export-based economy founded solely on rice because Japan couldn’t produce enough. When the world economy went to hell, Korean rice was worth absolutely nothing and its economic foundation crumbled.
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Number one.Japan proper was hit particularly hard by the Great Depression because Japanese government was making Japan from agrarian economy into an export-based economy where in many part of the country,especially the North East prefectures were founded solely on rice.
Number two.Japanese empire build railways and passenger ferries for the sake of empire and nothing but,However some Korean youth born as third or fourth eldest sons in the peasant family took advantage of the situation by moving to the center of empire where they heard you can make more money and took the opportunity insead of staying in the Korean country side where you have no opportunity what so ever.
Number three.Researchers like Lee Yong-hoon of Seoul University thinks most of the “famine”related description on the Korean text books are fabricated and need to rewritten much more accurately.
Now,neither Lee and I’m saying Japanese “did”good thing to Koreans.However,colonization had the side of modernizing the colony and development of all dimension of human life living there.Not that legitimize the Japanese colonization,which is why every single Korean President demands apology to Japanese prime minister at the summit and they get one,only to bitch that the apology wasn’t “real” or “sincere” or whatever.
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Aceface,
This is getting annoying.
If I were a westerner or a Japanese you would have just laughed about my comments, whether it made sense or not.
You are getting paranoiac.
My comment to Alex was just an observation, not an attack to Japan.
Stop revolving around this subject. We are talking about a movie, not history.
Again, You are getting paranoiac.
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“My comment to Alex was just an observation, not an attack to Japan.”
That is for me to decide.
“Stop revolving around this subject. We are talking about a movie, not history.
Well,”He is smart. By no means he would waste this chance to play the “Victim” card again.”This is not about neither Harrison Ford or Steven Spielberg is it not?
And both you and I(and Nakasone originally)wasn’t talking about movie.
What we have here is a classic situation pot meets kettle as Alex had described.One paranoiac meets another.
But one thing,you know,you are the one who constantly shows up here and leaving annoying comments.Now the road goes both ways for the first time.
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“That is for me to decide.”
I know Assface, oh sorry, Aceface, and you decided to annoy me just because of your sense of mediocrity before the westerners, right? As I said before it`s obvious that you picked me up among other people here just because of my nationality.
Now, the funny here is that japanese people bash koreans as irrational and emotional to discredit us, but in fact you are the only one irrational and emotional here. Easy man …..
Look, you don`t have to apologize me for what your country did to my country, ok? after all, how could I dare to expect something like that from irrational and emotional people like you….
You don’t know Power Rangers? Look:
http://jannawong.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/power-rangers_turboranger.jpg
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I apologize for what my country did to your country from bottom of my heart,but to make this sounds more sincere I have to be fully honest about how I feel about you to prove that I’m not lying to myself.
One:tI think that you are confused person who has very little to offer even on internet.
Two:Never had I bash Koreans as “irrational and emotional”.It’s the contrary.You are the one accusing me for being irrational and emotional and I fully accept the criticism.Still that doesn’t change any of my opinion about you.
Three.Is Alex,a Korean by any chance? And I hack on pretty much anyone.Korean,western or even your nemesis on this blog,Ponta.
Four:OK,that’s what the Power Rangers look like.
So how does this connects with the A-bomb?
And this question leads me back to One,that I think you are confused person who has very little to offer….
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Is Alex,a Korean by any chance?
No. Would it have mattered if I was?
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Sorry to interrupt in this heated debate, but wasn’t Japan building an entire industrial infrastructure in addition to making Korean an agricultural export economy?
I believe most of those factories were concentrated in the northern half of the peninsula, which is why immediately following the Korean War and the split, the North was considered to be better off and people who believed in communism flocked to the “paradise on Earth” … to their chagrin and demise, if I may add.
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“…Is Alex….? And I hack on pretty much anyone.Korean,western or even your nemesis on this blog,Ponta.”
Come to think of it, as long as we’re naming names, does anyone know what happened to The Overthinker?
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“No. Would it have mattered if I was?”
@Alex:Probably to our dear doctor.I guess.
@helical:The empire invested in Korea for the sake of empire.Not for any other reasons.
However,Japan had offered numerous assistance to South Korea since 1964.Something that is missing from the memory of everyone in Korea on this subject.
And on naming names:Things can be emotional when someone criticize me for my secret attachement to blonde women.But hey,Its my problem.None of yours……
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“And on naming names:Things can be emotional when someone criticize me for my secret attachement to blonde women.But hey,Its my problem.None of yours……”
Hey, fair enough! I was really just thinking how much I have enjoyed The Overthinker’s input during discussions such as this!
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Aceface,
I wasn’t implying that Japan built the infrastructure just to be nice. And besides, Korea WAS Japan at the time anyways, so the Japanese empire was investing in itself. Nothing unusual about that.
I just wanted to point out the statement by Alex way back that “Japanese colonial powers forced Korea from an agrarian economy into an export-based economy founded solely on rice” isn’t entirely accurate.
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It is from my point of view, having read up on the topic by a number of scholars from different areas.
What isn’t entirely accurate is that Japan initially forced itself on Japan. Korea invited Japan to help them fight back against European colonial powers encroaching on Asia, and they requested Japan (the strongest Asian power) to help in the Pan-Asiatic movement against Europe. And then Japan turned into an uncontrollable beast. Then history repeats itself when Japan oversteps its boundaries and attacks Pearl Harbor, drawing in what they thought was an enemy that could be weakened, which in turn turned out to be the same sort of uncontrollable beast that Japan was. (Hiroshima and Nagasaki)
Japan was invited to Korea but overstayed their welcome as their power became overwhelming in the region. But their policies were definitely not “for the benefit of the Korean peoples” – They were purely selfish and served only the Japanese empire. That they in any way may have benefited Korea in the long run is merely coincidence and used as an argument of afterthought.
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“Korea invited Japan to help them fight back against European colonial powers encroaching on Asia, and they requested Japan (the strongest Asian power) to help in the Pan-Asiatic movement against Europe.”
Pan-Asiatic movement against west had existed before the Sino-Japanese war of 1895 and during the World War 2.But after the Russo-Japanese war,the only colonial power that was encroaching peninsula was Imperial Japan.
“Japan was invited to Korea but overstayed their welcome as their power became overwhelming in the region.”
There were “groups”who wanted Japan to back them up for reform and Korean monoarchy had always swift between Tokyo and Moscow and Beijing.But nonetheless Japan entered into Korea with or without an invitation card,or so says in the memoir of Mustu Munemitsu”蹇々録”,who was minister of diplomacy at the time of First Sino-Japanese war.
These descriptions would never pass the guidelines of Ministry of education and science,Alex.
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Well, the Ministry of Education is a terrible bureau. I prefer to invest in the research of Stanford professor Gi-Wook Shin in his book Ethnic Nationalism in Korea: Genealogy, Politics, And Legacy.
The protectorate treaty of 1905 was the beginning of the end and, indeed, it was forced on Korea. But up until that point the Pan-Asiatic identity was more salient than nationalism and Koreans sought a partnership with Japan in the movement. It was about strengthening the position of Asia, until the Japanese imperial government took control of everything.
Saying that there was initial support for Japanese in the Pan-Asiatic movement does not imply that there was support for Japanese colonial rule.
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Thank you Dr. Pot for your assessment of our friend Kettle.
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Well,that means I now get the elevated status,Being treated equally with the “Dr.”
Get off the high horse,Alex.
You’ve been spending much too much time on internet without having close encounter with natives with English ability.
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Awwwright,I’m calming down now.And I take back what I said about you being isolated from Japanese conventional wisdom,Alex.
So please be kind enough to me to put me out from the same cage with the dear Dr.
So what is your take on Nakasone.Apart from being surprised by the lack of awareness of the fictional movie genre.He is pretty acculate on awareness of the weapon of mass destruction genre to my ears….
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I think he’s fear-mongering for the purpose of electioneering. What do his statements add at all to the discussion of nuclear proliferation? Of course he fears a Nork with nukes – Who doesn’t? But how does criticizing a movie meant to be an unrealistic fictional adventure at all add to the conversation?
You could even spin this story and show that Nakasone is anti-freedom of expression. Should the U.S. government enact laws that forbid directors from making scenes displaying nuclear explosions as comically survivable? What about car accidents? Gun fights? Should family members of swine flu victims be outraged at 28 Days Later for portraying the infected as zombies who need to be killed?
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“But how does criticizing a movie meant to be an unrealistic fictional adventure at all add to the conversation?”
Here’s basic fact of what happened.Nakasone was on his way to make trip to four nation.Three of them related with nuclear proliferation.He was about to visit New Zealand and Australia.NZ is the nation that prohibited U.S vessel coming into their waters with nuclear armaments and thus ostracized from ANZUS treaty.They are the real hard core No-nuke states.Kevin Rudd of Australia is also a politician who made nuclear non-proliferation,the key policy of his administration.He even started his first official visit from Hiroshima last year.And Nakasone’s next stop was Iran.
Tokyo just invited Iranian foreign minister in the beginning of april to talk about nuclear proliferation and this is the continuation of the bilateral dialogue.
Nakasone was making this speech before he starts his grand-non-proliferation tour also mentioning praise for Obama’s initiative toward non-nuclear world and urges China to reduce the production of nuclear weapons.Also he mentioned on North Korean nukes.He then mentioned on how the world is not understanding fully the threat of nuclear weapon to the human civilization and quoted one scene of Hollywood movie he saw WITHOUT naming it’s title.
AFP reporter then interviewed MoFA official and found out the very movie was nothing but the latest installment of Indiana Jones franchise.So the reporter made up a story in the only form foreigners would accept,just another toungue-in-cheek wacky Japan story.”J-official making fuss over Indiana Jones movie”.
You and Dr.Yu can use your imaginations fully and question Nakasone’s motivation either he’s playing victim over Hiroshima or doing this for the purpose of electioneering or anti-freedom of expression(WTF?)as you like.But that just isn’t the case,I’m afraid.
Take my advice.It’s the context that is important when you read and analyze the news.Not your prejudice.
God bless web 2.0.We’ve got a brave new world coming……
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He then mentioned on how the world is not understanding fully the threat of nuclear weapon to the human civilization and quoted one scene of Hollywood movie he saw WITHOUT naming it’s title.
So if I watch some version of Zatoichi can I comment, “Japanese do not fully understand the hardships that the blind face in life”?
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Well,it’s both yes and no I guess.
“Yes”for the sake of freedom of speech and “No” for the franchise does referrs to the hardships that the blind face in life,so like Nakasone,you should quote without naming it’s title.
Anyway you will admit that AFP not only spinned but cooked the event into totally different format….
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How many people here believe that one can survive a nuclear attack by hiding in a refrigerator?
Frankly, I do not know, for such an experiment is very hard to do, and the reports of such experiments are not easily available. If a movie or TV shows one way or the other, I tend to believe that way.
Does anyone know for sure what will happen to a man in a refrigerator when nuked?
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>Does anyone know for sure what will happen to a man in a refrigerator when nuked?
Obviously it depends on how far the fridge is from the blast epicentre, and how powerful the blast is. Considering that men and animals were c
>A nuclear explosion destroys everything in an instant
Everything? Everywhere? Then the Genbaku Dome must be a fake. After all, it was actually at the epicentre of the Hiroshima blast.
The Indian Jones clip at about 58s seems to show a distance of a least a couple of miles, a survivable distance from a bomb of that era if you’re shielded from the initial heat radiation.
Anyway, this is a film and should be given some artistic licence. Nakasone is politician and should know better than to say riduculous things.
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“Anyway, this is a film and should be given some artistic licence. Nakasone is politician and should know better than to say riduculous things.”
Considering Japanese politicians tendency of saying riduculous things much too often,I found Nakasone’s word is pretty decent.I mean,c’mon.
at least he’s not factually wrong on history here,you know.
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Personally, I saw this as more of a subtle “They don’t build stuff like they used to” cliche message.
The general impression (prejudice?) I have is that stuff built long ago are solid, heavy, and over-engineered to seemingly last for centuries if taken care of properly. That’s before manufacturers perfected the art of making flimsier products to break easily and encourage buying the latest and greatest rather than hanging on to your old ones. (Sony timer, anyone?)
So that scene said “fridge was insanely sturdy” rather than “nuclear blast was puny” to me.
But that’s just my opinion.
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And I say you just watched “Gran Torino”….
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Actually I haven’t. Is that the message of the movie?
I was debating whether to go see it and I think it’s still playing in theaters in Japan…
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Go see it in the theater and find out what I mean and make your day,helical.
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This tread has got ridiculous.
It started as a comment about the japanese foreign minster but ended up bashing Koreans as always.
Now every time there is a samurai movie countries whose soldiers were prisoners of the japanese army during the WWII will complain to Japan because their soldiers were behaved by the Japanese soldiers, and when they see a geisha movie countries like China, Filipinas, Korea, Netherlands and other western countries will complain because of “comfort woman” issue, on Japanese air force movie Americans will complain about Pearl Harbor, on medical care movies the Chinese, Filipinos, etc will complain about Nanquin and Japanese human experiments.
Japan committed the most horrible war crimes, yet when it comes to get accountable for such crimes they are caught by a “strange memory problem”, and when it comes to the A-bomb they get so emotional and the noblest human values comes out of their torn and hurt hearts.
So sad that when they were behaving prisoners, raping innocent women, conducting medical experiments in people alive, such noble values were buried at the deepest bottom of their heart by their honorable samurai conduct code, the bushido, which, by the way, says something about respect, honesty and pity toward the enemy.
Seems like the Japanese army missed the class, when they were teaching this chapter.
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“Japan committed the most horrible war crimes, yet when it comes to get accountable for such crimes they are caught by a “strange memory problem””
No,negative history gets its fair share in textbook and covered thoroughly in mass media.Something foreign media and Korean public chose not to admit.
“and when it comes to the A-bomb they get so emotional and the noblest human values comes out of their torn and hurt hearts.”
No.A-bomb is considered as one of many atrocities commited in WW2 in Japan,not the only.It just happened to be a fact that Japanese were vicitimizer than victim in World War 2.
And what’s so damn wrong about dreaming about the non-cuclear world,anyway?
“Seems like the Japanese army missed the class, when they were teaching this chapter.”
Well,Bushido has no chapter on pity toward enemy to tell you the truth.And Imperial Rescript to Soldiers and Sailors has a say on “never to become a prisoner and ashame your country”.
“It started as a comment about the japanese foreign minster but ended up bashing Koreans as always.”
So you do admit that this isn’t about “movie” now,eh?
Dr.Yu,I think you are making this emotional yourself.This may not be just a thread on movie like you had said previously,but certainly not about Korean bashing.(besides do we ALWAYS “bash”Koreans? on internet?Either you are too sensitive or addicted to attracting attentions in Japan blogs,Me thinks.)
Take your own advice.just relax and enjoy it.
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I wish Nakasone could comment the next movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87trjMI8gs
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Hope this news will make you feel better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U–JHu29iUY&feature=PlayList&p=AA0806E0A3B04036&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=16
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Aceface,
See you around !!!!
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