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		<title>By: Haf</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/04/25/indonesian-nurses-working-hard-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-316278</link>
		<dc:creator>Haf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are a Christian alright.

And a pretty radical one. As a matter of fact, it seems to me that you are almost as radical as those &quot;dangerous muslime people&quot; that you keep writing about. So, do you want to start another holy crusade? The last one initiated by the Christian community was a pretty bloddy one. So much for loving peace and harmony, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are a Christian alright.</p>
<p>And a pretty radical one. As a matter of fact, it seems to me that you are almost as radical as those &#8220;dangerous muslime people&#8221; that you keep writing about. So, do you want to start another holy crusade? The last one initiated by the Christian community was a pretty bloddy one. So much for loving peace and harmony, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.... since when ALL 100% of Indonesian are muslim??
and since when is all muslim are &#039;terrorist&#039;?? I&#039;m a christian Indonesian and even being a non-muslim and living in the country as a minority, I could say that your comment is deeply offensive and insensitive. It is this sort of hatred and fear that breeds terrorism and serves as their propaganda machine...

Also assuming that these female nurses are all radical muslim terrorist, how would they go around spreading message of hatred? aren&#039;t they struggling to pass the language test? and aren&#039;t the female is the one being repressed? Seriously there is bigger thing to worry about than spreading racist fearmongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously&#8230;. since when ALL 100% of Indonesian are muslim??<br />
and since when is all muslim are &#8216;terrorist&#8217;?? I&#8217;m a christian Indonesian and even being a non-muslim and living in the country as a minority, I could say that your comment is deeply offensive and insensitive. It is this sort of hatred and fear that breeds terrorism and serves as their propaganda machine&#8230;</p>
<p>Also assuming that these female nurses are all radical muslim terrorist, how would they go around spreading message of hatred? aren&#8217;t they struggling to pass the language test? and aren&#8217;t the female is the one being repressed? Seriously there is bigger thing to worry about than spreading racist fearmongering.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granting your speculations that that female nurses want to come to Japan because they don&#039;t like living under islamic rules. They have this teaching to spread the teachings of islam in a bit more drastic way since they claim that a non-muslim MUST be &quot;reverted&quot; to Islam and they have this law that anyone who denounce Islam is to be disowned even by their families and society and forever be exiled so you could have a picture on how they spread their way of thinking. They will use the word &quot;PEACE&quot; and the pleasures of teaching of having a HAREM way of life to attract innocent recruits to their &quot;spreading&quot; as according to their &quot;Law&quot;. If left unnoticed, soon you will be seeing them dominating Japan thus killing it&#039;s culture like what&#039;s happening in Europe as we speak. I suggest you study more on how they spread their beliefs and how DANGEROUS this is not only to a country&#039;s culture but Faith as well because this is a serious matter that Europe and America are now facing.

We All know that Japanese has a high prospect of preserving their culture. However, If this forceful religion&#039;s concept were to be injected into the people&#039;s minds, They will no longer act patriotic anymore; will follow in accordance to that religion&#039;s belief and abolish any traditions and cultures and act like a cancer that will slowly kill their country&#039;s values.

When I get old and a gaijin will take care of me situation? Not at all, Sure I will be thankful to that gaijin but what I&#039;m saying is we should also protect our country from these people with forceful beliefs and don&#039;t put our country at risk. I strongly advise you to consider the belief of that foreign workers, their activity and how risky they may overtake a country&#039;s culture and identity. to have a more insight of how risky it is, I suggest also you watch [Muslim Demographics: The Islamic Tidal Wave] in you tube</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granting your speculations that that female nurses want to come to Japan because they don&#8217;t like living under islamic rules. They have this teaching to spread the teachings of islam in a bit more drastic way since they claim that a non-muslim MUST be &#8220;reverted&#8221; to Islam and they have this law that anyone who denounce Islam is to be disowned even by their families and society and forever be exiled so you could have a picture on how they spread their way of thinking. They will use the word &#8220;PEACE&#8221; and the pleasures of teaching of having a HAREM way of life to attract innocent recruits to their &#8220;spreading&#8221; as according to their &#8220;Law&#8221;. If left unnoticed, soon you will be seeing them dominating Japan thus killing it&#8217;s culture like what&#8217;s happening in Europe as we speak. I suggest you study more on how they spread their beliefs and how DANGEROUS this is not only to a country&#8217;s culture but Faith as well because this is a serious matter that Europe and America are now facing.</p>
<p>We All know that Japanese has a high prospect of preserving their culture. However, If this forceful religion&#8217;s concept were to be injected into the people&#8217;s minds, They will no longer act patriotic anymore; will follow in accordance to that religion&#8217;s belief and abolish any traditions and cultures and act like a cancer that will slowly kill their country&#8217;s values.</p>
<p>When I get old and a gaijin will take care of me situation? Not at all, Sure I will be thankful to that gaijin but what I&#8217;m saying is we should also protect our country from these people with forceful beliefs and don&#8217;t put our country at risk. I strongly advise you to consider the belief of that foreign workers, their activity and how risky they may overtake a country&#8217;s culture and identity. to have a more insight of how risky it is, I suggest also you watch [Muslim Demographics: The Islamic Tidal Wave] in you tube</p>
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		<title>By: nadrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>nadrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t they front load the Japanese language school?  School costs ¥50,000/month.  Total cost is around ¥1,200,000 for 2 years.  Plus room &amp; board.  Not a terribly large amount of money. This is enough language to enter Japanese University.  If a nurse can pass the Japanese exam, and works here for 5 years, they should qualify for permanent residence.
btw
Doesn&#039;t JASSO give out scholarships for J-school, and then University to needy 3rd world students?  And, of course there are no jobs for these students after they graduate so they mostly return to home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they front load the Japanese language school?  School costs ¥50,000/month.  Total cost is around ¥1,200,000 for 2 years.  Plus room &amp; board.  Not a terribly large amount of money. This is enough language to enter Japanese University.  If a nurse can pass the Japanese exam, and works here for 5 years, they should qualify for permanent residence.<br />
btw<br />
Doesn&#8217;t JASSO give out scholarships for J-school, and then University to needy 3rd world students?  And, of course there are no jobs for these students after they graduate so they mostly return to home.</p>
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		<title>By: Level3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Level3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the female nurses want to come to Japan BECAUSE they don&#039;t like living under Islamic anti-female rules.

Maybe when you get old and a gaijin nurse takes care of you in a hospital, you will realize you&#039;re a hypocrite, at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the female nurses want to come to Japan BECAUSE they don&#8217;t like living under Islamic anti-female rules.</p>
<p>Maybe when you get old and a gaijin nurse takes care of you in a hospital, you will realize you&#8217;re a hypocrite, at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Level3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Level3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why let gaijin nurses into Japan at all? Surely they can&#039;t read every medicine label right now. So, there is some system already in place to solve this problem, right?

Can we also add that almost every medicine name in Japan is written in katakana (because they were invented abroad) and that these nurses usually have mnay years of experience and ALREADY passed nursing exams in their home country.

It&#039;s pretty clear that this is another example of Japan&#039;s unwritten &quot;3 years and go home gaijin!&quot; rule. So many employers will not allow a gaijin to work longer than 3 years. The longest work visa is 3 years. Is any other worker required to pass a licensing test IN JAPANESE under the threat of losing their visa and being sent home? Especially since Japan NEEDS nurses so badly.

This policy is insane when applied to skilled workers Japan desperately needs. If a nurse is good enough today, why send her home 3 years later if she can&#039;t pass a certain test? Why not let her try again after another year? If the test is so important, why don&#039;t they have to pass the test BEFORE they come to Japan? Why let such a &quot;dangerous&quot; nurse work for 3 years before taking this &quot;important&quot; test?

...ugh, I have to remind myself Japanese people usually don&#039;t understand sarcasm in Egnlish.

The even more sad thing is, at some point ONE of these nurses will make a mistake. It&#039;s inevitable. It won&#039;t matter if their rate of mistakes is far less than the Japanese nurses or not. After the first serious incident, the entire program has a huge chance of being cancelled altogether because the media will obsess over it, no-brain talentos will deabte over how &quot;dangerous&quot; gaijin nurses are, and a bunch of racist old people will bitch and moan that they don&#039;t want a &quot;dangerous&quot; gaijin nurse changing their bedsheets because only Japanese nurses properly understand the Japanese way of changing bedsheets in the Japanese aesthetic to please Japanese patients, who have far superior sensibilities to such things than gaijin in their gaikoku without 4 Japanese seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why let gaijin nurses into Japan at all? Surely they can&#8217;t read every medicine label right now. So, there is some system already in place to solve this problem, right?</p>
<p>Can we also add that almost every medicine name in Japan is written in katakana (because they were invented abroad) and that these nurses usually have mnay years of experience and ALREADY passed nursing exams in their home country.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear that this is another example of Japan&#8217;s unwritten &#8220;3 years and go home gaijin!&#8221; rule. So many employers will not allow a gaijin to work longer than 3 years. The longest work visa is 3 years. Is any other worker required to pass a licensing test IN JAPANESE under the threat of losing their visa and being sent home? Especially since Japan NEEDS nurses so badly.</p>
<p>This policy is insane when applied to skilled workers Japan desperately needs. If a nurse is good enough today, why send her home 3 years later if she can&#8217;t pass a certain test? Why not let her try again after another year? If the test is so important, why don&#8217;t they have to pass the test BEFORE they come to Japan? Why let such a &#8220;dangerous&#8221; nurse work for 3 years before taking this &#8220;important&#8221; test?</p>
<p>&#8230;ugh, I have to remind myself Japanese people usually don&#8217;t understand sarcasm in Egnlish.</p>
<p>The even more sad thing is, at some point ONE of these nurses will make a mistake. It&#8217;s inevitable. It won&#8217;t matter if their rate of mistakes is far less than the Japanese nurses or not. After the first serious incident, the entire program has a huge chance of being cancelled altogether because the media will obsess over it, no-brain talentos will deabte over how &#8220;dangerous&#8221; gaijin nurses are, and a bunch of racist old people will bitch and moan that they don&#8217;t want a &#8220;dangerous&#8221; gaijin nurse changing their bedsheets because only Japanese nurses properly understand the Japanese way of changing bedsheets in the Japanese aesthetic to please Japanese patients, who have far superior sensibilities to such things than gaijin in their gaikoku without 4 Japanese seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Japan won&#039;t let these islam into their country. If Japan is weak like Europe, sooner or later this country will be full of islam who teaches muslims to hate Christians, Jews and non believers of Allah. Save Japan from this pestilence. I love Japanese culture and I don&#039;t want it to be influences like Europe&#039;s been currently &quot;mutating&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Japan won&#8217;t let these islam into their country. If Japan is weak like Europe, sooner or later this country will be full of islam who teaches muslims to hate Christians, Jews and non believers of Allah. Save Japan from this pestilence. I love Japanese culture and I don&#8217;t want it to be influences like Europe&#8217;s been currently &#8220;mutating&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think of the dangers may happen for instance an emergency occured and the nurse couldn&#039;t read the medicine needed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think of the dangers may happen for instance an emergency occured and the nurse couldn&#8217;t read the medicine needed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nigelboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nigelboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there is nothing more useless than (especially for these nurses) than studying the arcane for the sake of weeding out those without photo-memories.&quot;

Still can&#039;t fill out a point card application for nearest supermarket, I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is nothing more useless than (especially for these nurses) than studying the arcane for the sake of weeding out those without photo-memories.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still can&#8217;t fill out a point card application for nearest supermarket, I see.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go to Japanese school M-F 4 hrs/day.  The pace is quick enough that I find myself frequently spending up to another 4 hrs doing homework and studying.  The course will last for 2 years and I can expect to maybe reach the level of 2 kyu.  This is the standard course for studying Japanese in Japan.  There are hundreds of these schools in Tokyo alone.  Mostly Korean, Chinese and Taiwanese students.  Anyway, I have always scored very high on tests (around 98th percentile.) I am having significant difficulty learning Japanese.  I don&#039;t think these nurses stand a chance.  They probably won&#039;t have much time to study because nurses in Japan have a pretty hard schedules (so I&#039;ve heard.) I think these Indonesian nurses are going to be too tired to study much and that is only if they are treated like Japanese.  Figure the odds. Japan doesn&#039;t actually have a stellar track record when it comes to the treatment of foreign &quot;trainees.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go to Japanese school M-F 4 hrs/day.  The pace is quick enough that I find myself frequently spending up to another 4 hrs doing homework and studying.  The course will last for 2 years and I can expect to maybe reach the level of 2 kyu.  This is the standard course for studying Japanese in Japan.  There are hundreds of these schools in Tokyo alone.  Mostly Korean, Chinese and Taiwanese students.  Anyway, I have always scored very high on tests (around 98th percentile.) I am having significant difficulty learning Japanese.  I don&#8217;t think these nurses stand a chance.  They probably won&#8217;t have much time to study because nurses in Japan have a pretty hard schedules (so I&#8217;ve heard.) I think these Indonesian nurses are going to be too tired to study much and that is only if they are treated like Japanese.  Figure the odds. Japan doesn&#8217;t actually have a stellar track record when it comes to the treatment of foreign &#8220;trainees.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lovely</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also feel the test should contain kanji that the nurses will actually come across in their work instead of the insipid way tests are done in this country.  they focus on the obscure and neglect the useful.  just the way business is done here.  there is nothing more useless than (especially for these nurses) than studying the arcane for the sake of weeding out those without photo-memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also feel the test should contain kanji that the nurses will actually come across in their work instead of the insipid way tests are done in this country.  they focus on the obscure and neglect the useful.  just the way business is done here.  there is nothing more useless than (especially for these nurses) than studying the arcane for the sake of weeding out those without photo-memories.</p>
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		<title>By: hoihoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoihoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vietnamese Nurse Working in Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTu81-JBwc</description>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTu81-JBwc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTu81-JBwc</a></p>
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