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		<title>By: ponta</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you don’t want Japanese media→you don’t watch Japanese media</description>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;None of the links show how much %. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Your claim was that  Japanese media mentioning Korea as one of the countries that produce counterfeit goods was a typical Japanese attempt to depict Koreans in a bad shadow. I showed that other countries also listed Korea as such and asked if they were typical attempt to show Koreans in a bad show. You haven&#039;t answered the question.
If you are interested in how much %, ask them.
For your information, as far as Japan is concerned, in 2004, Korea was the No. 1 offender when it comes to counterfeit goods.(see the link I gave to the overthinker), but Korea has dropped since then and now China is No 1.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also you forget Korea too receive counterfeit goods from qina. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t forget it, but that is irrelevant. Besides it is imaginable since many countries list China as No 1 offender now when it comes to  counterfeit goods.

I guess you don&#039;t want Japanese media.
A few years ago, Japanese media was filled with Hanryu(韓流）and it still often reports Korean entertainers. That is one reason why there are many Japanese fans of them. For that matter, Japanese media also reports cross-cultural festivals between Japan and Korea and how to help reconstruct Namdaemun etc. Don&#039;t  Korean media  report these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>None of the links show how much %. </p></blockquote>
<p>Your claim was that  Japanese media mentioning Korea as one of the countries that produce counterfeit goods was a typical Japanese attempt to depict Koreans in a bad shadow. I showed that other countries also listed Korea as such and asked if they were typical attempt to show Koreans in a bad show. You haven&#8217;t answered the question.<br />
If you are interested in how much %, ask them.<br />
For your information, as far as Japan is concerned, in 2004, Korea was the No. 1 offender when it comes to counterfeit goods.(see the link I gave to the overthinker), but Korea has dropped since then and now China is No 1.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also you forget Korea too receive counterfeit goods from qina. </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t forget it, but that is irrelevant. Besides it is imaginable since many countries list China as No 1 offender now when it comes to  counterfeit goods.</p>
<p>I guess you don&#8217;t want Japanese media.<br />
A few years ago, Japanese media was filled with Hanryu(韓流）and it still often reports Korean entertainers. That is one reason why there are many Japanese fans of them. For that matter, Japanese media also reports cross-cultural festivals between Japan and Korea and how to help reconstruct Namdaemun etc. Don&#8217;t  Korean media  report these?</p>
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		<title>By: The Overthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Overthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouTube is US. You also asked &quot;Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?&quot; The number of links shows that it is well-established. You never asked for precise percentages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouTube is US. You also asked &#8220;Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?&#8221; The number of links shows that it is well-established. You never asked for precise percentages.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.:  &quot;Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?&quot;

Have you ever been to Namdaemun?  I could practically fill my enormous Korean-style closet with &quot;brand clothes&quot; for like a quarter of a month&#039;s hagwon salary.

I used to live on the southern tip of South Korea in Gyeongnam up until almost exactly one year ago, and the streets were packed with fake brand goods, mostly Nike and Puma.  And the thing is - The people selling the clothes give full disclosure of that fact with no embarrassment.  It&#039;s no secret - They sell fake brand clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.:  &#8220;Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever been to Namdaemun?  I could practically fill my enormous Korean-style closet with &#8220;brand clothes&#8221; for like a quarter of a month&#8217;s hagwon salary.</p>
<p>I used to live on the southern tip of South Korea in Gyeongnam up until almost exactly one year ago, and the streets were packed with fake brand goods, mostly Nike and Puma.  And the thing is &#8211; The people selling the clothes give full disclosure of that fact with no embarrassment.  It&#8217;s no secret &#8211; They sell fake brand clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youtube is one of the examples.</description>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the links show how much %. Also you forget Korea too receive counterfeit goods from qina. 

http://www.havocscope.com/Counterfeit/southkorea.htm

And we also know how Japanese media really is when it come to Koreans. Pretty  typical indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the links show how much %. Also you forget Korea too receive counterfeit goods from qina. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.havocscope.com/Counterfeit/southkorea.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.havocscope.com/Counterfeit/southkorea.htm</a></p>
<p>And we also know how Japanese media really is when it come to Koreans. Pretty  typical indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
There is a difference between 点数 and 件数. NTV mentions 点数 of 380,000 individual items brought in, of which China and Qorea make up 80%.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

平成20年における知的財産侵害物品の差止状況（詳細）
http://www.mof.go.jp/jouhou/kanzei/chizai/ka210306a.htm
&lt;blockquote&gt;
・・・・平成18年  	平成19年  	平成20年
・・・・件数　構成比 	件数 	構成比 	件数 	構成比
中国 	9,440 	48.2% 	16,116 	71.1% 	21,529 	81.5%
韓国 	8,720 	44.5% 	4,527 	20.0% 	3,287 12.4%&lt;/blockquote&gt;
On a kensuu base, Chian accounts for about 80%
But on a tensuu base,
China 74.1%
Korea 11.6%
So the amount combined is roughly about 80%. So perhaps this is what NTV was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
There is a difference between 点数 and 件数. NTV mentions 点数 of 380,000 individual items brought in, of which China and Qorea make up 80%.</p></blockquote>
<p>平成20年における知的財産侵害物品の差止状況（詳細）<br />
<a href="http://www.mof.go.jp/jouhou/kanzei/chizai/ka210306a.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mof.go.jp/jouhou/kanzei/chizai/ka210306a.htm</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
・・・・平成18年  	平成19年  	平成20年<br />
・・・・件数　構成比 	件数 	構成比 	件数 	構成比<br />
中国 	9,440 	48.2% 	16,116 	71.1% 	21,529 	81.5%<br />
韓国 	8,720 	44.5% 	4,527 	20.0% 	3,287 12.4%</p></blockquote>
<p>On a kensuu base, Chian accounts for about 80%<br />
But on a tensuu base,<br />
China 74.1%<br />
Korea 11.6%<br />
So the amount combined is roughly about 80%. So perhaps this is what NTV was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/03/13/diposing-of-counterfeit-brand-products/comment-page-1/#comment-308394</link>
		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Typical attempt of Japanese media to depict Koreans in a bad shadow・・・・
Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;
Korean counterfeiters prefer Chanel

Chanel was recently distinguished as being the most popular line among counterfeit goods producers. Countries such as China and Korea are the highest producers of fake goods, 
http://www.fashionunited.co.uk/news/counterfeit.htm
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe　typical attempt of UK media to depict Koreans in a bad shadow?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The United States says China is the No. 1 offender when it comes to counterfeit goods, with others including South Korea, Pakistan and India.
http://jp.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idJPN0127166320070212
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Typical attempt of U.S. to depict Koreans in a bad shadow?
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Itaewon・・・・
Counterfeit goods and clothing are ubiquitous and of varying quality, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itaewon
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Typical attempt of wiki to depict Koreans in a bad shadow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Typical attempt of Japanese media to depict Koreans in a bad shadow・・・・<br />
Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>
Korean counterfeiters prefer Chanel</p>
<p>Chanel was recently distinguished as being the most popular line among counterfeit goods producers. Countries such as China and Korea are the highest producers of fake goods,<br />
<a href="http://www.fashionunited.co.uk/news/counterfeit.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fashionunited.co.uk/news/counterfeit.htm</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe　typical attempt of UK media to depict Koreans in a bad shadow?</p>
<blockquote><p>
The United States says China is the No. 1 offender when it comes to counterfeit goods, with others including South Korea, Pakistan and India.<br />
<a href="http://jp.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idJPN0127166320070212" rel="nofollow">http://jp.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idJPN0127166320070212</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Typical attempt of U.S. to depict Koreans in a bad shadow?</p>
<blockquote><p>
Itaewon・・・・<br />
Counterfeit goods and clothing are ubiquitous and of varying quality,<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itaewon" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itaewon</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Typical attempt of wiki to depict Koreans in a bad shadow?</p>
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		<title>By: The Overthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Overthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japan Customs and Tokyo Customs give me the same results:

平成20年知的財産侵害物品の差止状況を発表
東京税関は、平成21年3月12日、平成20年における知的財産侵害物品の差止状況を報道発表した。
差止件数は11,373件と前年比0.2%減で横ばい、差止点数は約38万点で前年比14.7%減となった。
仕出では、中国からの差止件数は7,684件と前年比20.4％増となり、全体の67.6%を占めており、平成18年まで首位であった韓国からの差止件数は減少傾向にあり、平成20年は前年比26.1%減となった。
品目別ではバッグ類が件数、点数共に首位を占め、医薬品の差止点数が約5万件、前年比2.5倍となった。

China is 67.6% not 80%. Qorea has dropped from its previous high by 26%. 

Anyway, there is something we have been missing if we read the reports carefully. There is a difference between 点数 and 件数. NTV mentions 点数 of 380,000 individual items brought in, of which China and Qorea make up 80%. The Official Customs report does not talk about 点数 for China and Qorea, just 件数 - the number of incidents (eaach person smuggling fake brands was smuggling an average of 33 items). 

Something the news left out of the Finance Ministry report:
平成20年に税関において輸入が差し止められた知的財産侵害物品の総価額(正規品であった場合の推計価格)は約206億円であり、前年の約385億円から大幅に減少しました。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japan Customs and Tokyo Customs give me the same results:</p>
<p>平成20年知的財産侵害物品の差止状況を発表<br />
東京税関は、平成21年3月12日、平成20年における知的財産侵害物品の差止状況を報道発表した。<br />
差止件数は11,373件と前年比0.2%減で横ばい、差止点数は約38万点で前年比14.7%減となった。<br />
仕出では、中国からの差止件数は7,684件と前年比20.4％増となり、全体の67.6%を占めており、平成18年まで首位であった韓国からの差止件数は減少傾向にあり、平成20年は前年比26.1%減となった。<br />
品目別ではバッグ類が件数、点数共に首位を占め、医薬品の差止点数が約5万件、前年比2.5倍となった。</p>
<p>China is 67.6% not 80%. Qorea has dropped from its previous high by 26%. </p>
<p>Anyway, there is something we have been missing if we read the reports carefully. There is a difference between 点数 and 件数. NTV mentions 点数 of 380,000 individual items brought in, of which China and Qorea make up 80%. The Official Customs report does not talk about 点数 for China and Qorea, just 件数 &#8211; the number of incidents (eaach person smuggling fake brands was smuggling an average of 33 items). </p>
<p>Something the news left out of the Finance Ministry report:<br />
平成20年に税関において輸入が差し止められた知的財産侵害物品の総価額(正規品であった場合の推計価格)は約206億円であり、前年の約385億円から大幅に減少しました。</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical attempt of Japanese media to depict Koreans in a bad shadow, it&#039;s funny they always categorize Koreans with qinese when mentioning foreign crimes when qinese crimes far surpass that of Koreans. how about mentioning Brazilians and qinese instead? Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical attempt of Japanese media to depict Koreans in a bad shadow, it&#8217;s funny they always categorize Koreans with qinese when mentioning foreign crimes when qinese crimes far surpass that of Koreans. how about mentioning Brazilians and qinese instead? Also since when Korea is known for making counterfeit products?</p>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;東京税関は１２日、空港などで持ち込みを止められた偽ブランド品を、東京・江東区の産業廃棄物処理工場で一斉に廃棄処分した。

　この日処分されたのは、去年１１月から今年２月までに国内に持ち込もうとして税関などで止められた約１万点。東京税関によると、去年一年間に持ち込みを止められた偽ブランド品は約３８万点に上り、約８割が中国と韓国からの持ち込みだったという。 
http://www.ntv.co.jp/news/130910.html
日テレニュース
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;偽ブランド品：うその輝き　輸入差し止め過去最多、８割が中国から
財務省は６日、偽ブランド品など知的財産侵害物品の０８年の輸入差し止め件数が、前年比１６・６％増の２万６４１５件に達したと発表した。８年連続で過去最多を更新。８割以上の約２万１５００件が中国からの輸入品だった。
Last year marks the eighth year in a row a new high has been set. Around 80 percent of the halted imports were from China.
http://mainichi.jp/select/jiken/news/20090307ddm041040010000c.html
毎日
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
全国の税関による偽ブランド品などの知的財産侵害商品の差し止め件数が、平成２０年に前年比１６・６％増の２万６４１５件に上り、８年連続で過去最多を記録したことが６日、財務省の調べで分かった。中国からの輸入品差し止めが全体の８割を超えた。（産経）
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/economy/finance/090306/fnc0903062125011-n1.htm
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably on　national level, 80% came from China, but in case of the Tokyo　 Custom  House reported　on Nihon TV, 80% came from China and Korea  combined.・・・・I am not sure though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>東京税関は１２日、空港などで持ち込みを止められた偽ブランド品を、東京・江東区の産業廃棄物処理工場で一斉に廃棄処分した。</p>
<p>　この日処分されたのは、去年１１月から今年２月までに国内に持ち込もうとして税関などで止められた約１万点。東京税関によると、去年一年間に持ち込みを止められた偽ブランド品は約３８万点に上り、約８割が中国と韓国からの持ち込みだったという。<br />
<a href="http://www.ntv.co.jp/news/130910.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ntv.co.jp/news/130910.html</a><br />
日テレニュース
</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>偽ブランド品：うその輝き　輸入差し止め過去最多、８割が中国から<br />
財務省は６日、偽ブランド品など知的財産侵害物品の０８年の輸入差し止め件数が、前年比１６・６％増の２万６４１５件に達したと発表した。８年連続で過去最多を更新。８割以上の約２万１５００件が中国からの輸入品だった。<br />
Last year marks the eighth year in a row a new high has been set. Around 80 percent of the halted imports were from China.<br />
<a href="http://mainichi.jp/select/jiken/news/20090307ddm041040010000c.html" rel="nofollow">http://mainichi.jp/select/jiken/news/20090307ddm041040010000c.html</a><br />
毎日
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<blockquote><p>
全国の税関による偽ブランド品などの知的財産侵害商品の差し止め件数が、平成２０年に前年比１６・６％増の２万６４１５件に上り、８年連続で過去最多を記録したことが６日、財務省の調べで分かった。中国からの輸入品差し止めが全体の８割を超えた。（産経）<br />
<a href="http://sankei.jp.msn.com/economy/finance/090306/fnc0903062125011-n1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sankei.jp.msn.com/economy/finance/090306/fnc0903062125011-n1.htm</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably on　national level, 80% came from China, but in case of the Tokyo　 Custom  House reported　on Nihon TV, 80% came from China and Korea  combined.・・・・I am not sure though.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/03/13/diposing-of-counterfeit-brand-products/comment-page-1/#comment-308138</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Tokyo gets more counterfeit goods from Korea?  This network said 82% of all counterfeit goods seized nationwide in 2008 were of Chinese origin:
&lt;blockquote&gt;全国の税関が2008年の1年間で差し止めた偽ブランド品は、94万点にのぼり、&lt;b&gt;中国から差し止められた商品は、全体の82%を占めた&lt;/b&gt;。&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews/fnn/20090312/20090312-00000054-fnn-soci.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Tokyo gets more counterfeit goods from Korea?  This network said 82% of all counterfeit goods seized nationwide in 2008 were of Chinese origin:</p>
<blockquote><p>全国の税関が2008年の1年間で差し止めた偽ブランド品は、94万点にのぼり、<b>中国から差し止められた商品は、全体の82%を占めた</b>。</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/03/13/diposing-of-counterfeit-brand-products/comment-page-1/#comment-308133</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the news story on a different station last night, and it said 80% of the counterfeit goods are from both China and Korea combined, not just China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the news story on a different station last night, and it said 80% of the counterfeit goods are from both China and Korea combined, not just China.</p>
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