Comments on: Airport fingerprinting system prevented 846 foreigners from entering Japan

By: The Overthinker

The Overthinker — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:18:57 +0000

No, that is not the issue at all. People who say that seem to think that laws could never change, that all laws are just laws.

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By: Bruce Smith

Bruce Smith — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:17:50 +0000

Yawn. After 6 years away from Japan I went through the fingerprint & photo thing for the first time in October and I got my usual ‘Welcome back’. As many have said if you are an ordinary honest law abiding person then it is not a problem.

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By: Rob A

Rob A — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:12:58 +0000

Do they make you carry ばか外人　cards in Japan or something?

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By: Bob

Bob — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:24:57 +0000

OK, acknowledged James. I was simply pointing out a link between revising the nationality law, where children of unmarried Japanese fathers and foreign mothers would gain nationality. This in turn would create a “free-for-all of crime and espionage” apparently caused by children.

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By: James

James — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:48:13 +0000

Bob:

I translated the second-highest rated comment in the yahoo article linked. Unfortunatey, Yahoo Japan does not keep proper archives, so the original comment thread for the article is no longer available.

But just in case you are wondering, here is the original Japanese it was translated from:

“観光客でもこれだけ不安なのに、国籍法が可決されたらどうなるんだよ。
犯罪やスパイ活動・・やりたい放題じゃないか。 ”

Like LB, I don’t really understand why you would need to suggest I was “being flippant” when reporting the existence of a popular comment. Those word aren’t mine and I didn’t write anything in this post to suggest I agreed with the opinion expressed in them.

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By: Bob

Bob — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:25:15 +0000

For LB who seems to be comprehensively challenged and may need some clarification: ‘this’ refers to the Chinese Saying in my last post.

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By: Bob

Bob — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:19:29 +0000

I said he wrote them – not that he is the originator.

Cut & Paste aside, when you quote someone, you have to write what they said or wrote.

*sigh*

Must be difficult constantly picking holes…

Chinese saying:
“Your candle does not glow more brightly, just because you try to make my candle glow dim.”

Now, I wrote this, but I am not the originator…

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By: helical

helical — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:47:50 +0000

Wait, James lost some art?

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By: LB

LB — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:52:02 +0000

James didn’t write those.

*sigh*

Is reading comprehension becoming a lost art?

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By: Bob

Bob — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:01:03 +0000

I hope James was being flippant when he wrote:

People are this worried about tourism, but what if the nationality law is revised?! It will be a free-for-all of crime and espionage!

Because if he’s right, there will be a ‘native’ sho-gakko crimewave of immense proportions!

From the Asahi Shimbun “revisions to the nationality law” link in the article:

The Upper House has put the brakes on a move to revise the Nationality Law to let children of unmarried Japanese fathers and foreign mothers gain nationality even if the father does not admit paternity before birth.

Lets keep the crime problem a purely immigrant affair please – and adults only!

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By: Turner Wright

Turner Wright — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:51:00 +0000

Indeed. Needs to do his research there.

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By: TR

TR — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:44:34 +0000

err…it seems you are not a foreigner in Japan, are you?

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By: jmadsen

jmadsen — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 04:18:01 +0000

Anyone remember how much the program cost? Wonder how much per potential worker…er, I mean, “criminal”

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By: Ihatezturkey

Ihatezturkey — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:16:51 +0000

Good!

Can’t be as bad as the system in the UK – they’re making foreign people carry “foreigner” cards – isn’t a passport enough?

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By: www.japansoc.com

www.japansoc.com — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:16:48 +0000

We Hate Foreigners!…

All Your Fingerprints Are Belong To Us!…

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By: Level3

Level3 — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:05:53 +0000

Isn’t is just as likely that any percentage reduction in visa overrstayers is due to an equal reduction in the number of visas granted, say, because rising airline ticket prices and fuel surchages this year have cut down the number of less wealthy people trying to fly in?

When politicans use numbers to prove their new pet project works, you can guarantee at the vey least to see possibly honest numbers, but without context which might prove the “successful” statistics to be totally unrelated to the pet project. Or they cn just cherry-pick data, or just make it all up.

This is doubly true for stats about gaijin in Japan.
Gaijin “crime rate ” anyone?

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By: doinkies

doinkies — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:35:24 +0000

It’s Yahoo!…their news comments have always attracted such people.

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By: Marco Polo

Marco Polo — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:03:13 +0000

Because ALL entering Japan are fingerprinted, it’s important to create the clear association in the public mind between biometric data, criminals and other illegals, and public safety. I think we can expect many similar propaganda efforts in the near future, don’t you, boys and girls?

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By: Ken Y-N

Ken Y-N — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:04:41 +0000

Ta for the link!

That Yahoo! story’s comments are pretty bloody depressing! How reliable are the votes there, do you know? Anyway, as I noted, something needs to be done to address why there is so much mutual hate between Japan and its neighbours.

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By: Haf

Haf — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:03:29 +0000

Ok, nice, 846 wannabe-illegal immigrants wer caught.
And how many legit tourists, businessmen, etc. were annoyed, bothered and harrassed by this system?

Luckily I’ve already been inside Japan last year when the system has been introduced, but I don’t really look forward to give my biometric data to the authorities when I enter the country the next time.
Same goes for the USA…

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By: gary

gary — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:01:29 +0000

how many illegal immigrants were discovered before the fingerprints, I think you will find it nearly the same,

Lies ,lies and damn statistics

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