Comments on: U.S. nuclear sub arrives in Japan without notice

By: inverse

inverse — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:26:46 +0000

I don’t think the US would allow a foreign country to set its military bases on US soil.

Therefore, the opposite you mention is not bound to happen.

On the other hand why would the US need to respect bilateral agreements? They are here to export their democracy, don’t bother them with futile, useless agreements. heh.

By: Level3

Level3 — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:44:23 +0000

And it wouldn’t be an issue at all if America hadn’t given Okinawa back to Japan in 1972. (or thereabouts)

Someone forgot to send a message, or maybe the sub’s comm gear was out of whack and thus they couldn’t call ahead anyway. But they couldn’t really go ahead and tell the papers “Our subs sometimes lose communications” that would be a little fireball of news and outrage. “OMFG! Your NUCLEAR subs sometimes have comm trouble?! What if…. failsafe scenario…armageddon…someone pushing buttons by mistake…etc.etc.”

By: helical

helical — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:22:06 +0000

If there wasn’t an agreement in the first place, I’d agree making an issue out of this is pretty ridiculous.
But there is one (not debating the legitimacy of it for now), so America is the one that broke the rules concerning giving a heads up on moving strategic weapons into another country’s domain, even if the naval base itself is technically America’s little haven.

By: VonSkippy

VonSkippy — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:43:14 +0000

I’d think all of the construction equipment building the Japanese Naval base on American soil would give them a hint.

By: kaito

kaito — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:19:32 +0000

Not saying too much about the sub, just you bringing up Pearl Harbor and Ponta bringing up Perry.

I’m glad you guys aren’t our leaders.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:01:38 +0000

The difference is that officials within the US government had prior knowledge of the Pearl Harbor attack.

By: leitmotiv

leitmotiv — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:00:36 +0000

“Does that remind you of 1852, when Commodore Perry “visited” Japan without having provided prior notification to Japan?”

You are kidding, right?

By: tzvete

tzvete — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:21:17 +0000

I wonder what the American reaction would be if it were the opposite way.

By: dogtato

dogtato — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:36:25 +0000

This is about as serious as Emporer Akihito’s wartime crimes against Korea.

By: Trufax

Trufax — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:57:38 +0000

The guy who went to Japan to open trade routes? Yeah that is COMPLETELY analagous to Pearl Harbor because he “could” have used violence when he was rebuffed. That is exactly the same thing as an unprovoked attack. You sure showed me!

By: VonSkippy

VonSkippy — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:14:45 +0000

Wow, an American sub goes to an American Navel Base – QUICK EVERYONE PANIC.

I’d worry more when a Chinese or Russian or N Korean sub arrives unexpected.

By: ponta

ponta — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:46:33 +0000

Does that remind you of 1852, when Commodore Perry “visited” Japan without having provided prior notification to Japan?