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	<title>Comments on: Beijing Olympics &#8211; shirtless men, fake products, and Potemkin facades</title>
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		<title>By: PharmacyOnlineShop</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-306044</link>
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		<title>By: Would you like a fake rolex with that Olympic t-shirt? &#124; Japan Probe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Would you like a fake rolex with that Olympic t-shirt? &#124; Japan Probe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those that missed their report on fake brand goods that aired before the Beijing Olympics, Fuji TV has aired a new report on fake Olympic t-shirts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those that missed their report on fake brand goods that aired before the Beijing Olympics, Fuji TV has aired a new report on fake Olympic t-shirts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three more interesting Beijing facade pics erected to make the city more beautiful:

http://i38.tinypic.com/14mewc3.jpg[/IMG]

http://i35.tinypic.com/2gugq5j.jpg[/IMG]

http://i33.tinypic.com/rsgahk.jpg[/IMG]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three more interesting Beijing facade pics erected to make the city more beautiful:</p>
<p><a href="http://i38.tinypic.com/14mewc3.jpg/IMG" rel="nofollow">http://i38.tinypic.com/14mewc3.jpg/IMG</a></p>
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		<title>By: Summon The Heros &#171; The Front Yard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summon The Heros &#171; The Front Yard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James - Beijing Olympics - shirtless men, fake products, and Potemkin facades [...]</description>
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		<title>By: juan d</title>
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		<dc:creator>juan d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it is ridicuolus that ANYBODY thinks any of this is right.  china has faked/cheated every aspect in these olympics.  from the fake buildings, to the fake passports, to the children who were stolen from their families to be bread for the lack of a better word to be athletes, to blocking view of the real beijing.  

i lost all of my respect for their whole country and the olympics.  what a sham, they took everything that should be wholesome from sports.  

as long as china is in the olympics i wont watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it is ridicuolus that ANYBODY thinks any of this is right.  china has faked/cheated every aspect in these olympics.  from the fake buildings, to the fake passports, to the children who were stolen from their families to be bread for the lack of a better word to be athletes, to blocking view of the real beijing.  </p>
<p>i lost all of my respect for their whole country and the olympics.  what a sham, they took everything that should be wholesome from sports.  </p>
<p>as long as china is in the olympics i wont watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Working in a No Trust Zone : Virtual Impax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working in a No Trust Zone : Virtual Impax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beijing Olympics - shirtless men, fake products, and Potemkin facades [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Miguel Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are a &quot;word&quot;in spanish saying &quot;The dog never smell his tail&quot;,meaning you never see you own mistake.I guess any country will do the same,like us when we specting a visit,we fix every thing nice because the visit or not.Well live alone the chinese people that is culture matter.

ARRIBA PERÚ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are a &#8220;word&#8221;in spanish saying &#8220;The dog never smell his tail&#8221;,meaning you never see you own mistake.I guess any country will do the same,like us when we specting a visit,we fix every thing nice because the visit or not.Well live alone the chinese people that is culture matter.</p>
<p>ARRIBA PERÚ</p>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-216881</link>
		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the point was to point out shirtless men walking around.
You can see the shirtless men walking around in Japan say, on the construction site or on the backstreet.The point was to show how China is  
trying to prepare the Olympic game to make it look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the point was to point out shirtless men walking around.<br />
You can see the shirtless men walking around in Japan say, on the construction site or on the backstreet.The point was to show how China is<br />
trying to prepare the Olympic game to make it look good.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-216878</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole &quot;shirtless men walking around&quot; thing was a bit silly to point out. It&#039;s not really important, yet it still manages to make China look bad. Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8220;shirtless men walking around&#8221; thing was a bit silly to point out. It&#8217;s not really important, yet it still manages to make China look bad. Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, Japanese TV LOVES doing the &quot;let&#039;s make China look bad&quot; segments! Always good stuff.

@LeslieC:

I&#039;ve you&#039;ve been visiting this site for a while you&#039;d know that these types of segments pop up once quite a bit and are nothing new, and is not just Japan hopping on the anti-Olympic bandwagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, Japanese TV LOVES doing the &#8220;let&#8217;s make China look bad&#8221; segments! Always good stuff.</p>
<p>@LeslieC:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve you&#8217;ve been visiting this site for a while you&#8217;d know that these types of segments pop up once quite a bit and are nothing new, and is not just Japan hopping on the anti-Olympic bandwagon.</p>
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		<title>By: Asuka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally would hold off all judgments of the Beijing Olympics&#039; success until the games finish.</description>
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		<title>By: concerned Filipino</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-216315</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned Filipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, someone here doesn&#039;t know the meaning of sarcasm. I never claimed anyone was accusing me of anything, did I? No one is being defensive, except maybe in your imagination. Maybe you need to cool down.

Percivale, I&#039;ve been to Hong Kong, not Beijing, but I think it&#039;s obvious from your posts what your opinion of the standard of living in Asian countries not named Japan, Singapore, or Hong Kong (which is part of China in any case) is. It isn&#039;t actually that bad in these benighted countries, as long as you&#039;re a member of the (tiny) middle and upper classes, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, someone here doesn&#8217;t know the meaning of sarcasm. I never claimed anyone was accusing me of anything, did I? No one is being defensive, except maybe in your imagination. Maybe you need to cool down.</p>
<p>Percivale, I&#8217;ve been to Hong Kong, not Beijing, but I think it&#8217;s obvious from your posts what your opinion of the standard of living in Asian countries not named Japan, Singapore, or Hong Kong (which is part of China in any case) is. It isn&#8217;t actually that bad in these benighted countries, as long as you&#8217;re a member of the (tiny) middle and upper classes, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Un posto dove appendere il cappello &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beijing 2008 - Pechino: una città più contraffatta della Vuitton di un senegalese</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-215772</link>
		<dc:creator>Un posto dove appendere il cappello &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beijing 2008 - Pechino: una città più contraffatta della Vuitton di un senegalese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dopo lo scoop della tivù coreana che ha mostrato in anteprima le &#8217;segretissime&#8217; immagini della cerimonia di inaugurazione, una troupe giapponese della Fuji TV fa le pulci agli organizzatori e mette alla berlina nequizie e inettitudini dei cinesi. Hotel che dovevano essere pronti per i Giochi ma che non sono stati terminati, sono stati dipinti esteriormente - come i fondali di Cinecittà - pur di fare bella figura coi turisti. Muri sono stati eretti per nascondere alla vista dei visitatori il misero spettacolo delle bidonvilles pechinesi. Cinesi che abitualmente vivono nei loro quartieri a torso nudo, saranno obbligati, durante l&#8217;Olimpiade, a indossare camicie. Il video su Japan Probe. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dopo lo scoop della tivù coreana che ha mostrato in anteprima le &#8217;segretissime&#8217; immagini della cerimonia di inaugurazione, una troupe giapponese della Fuji TV fa le pulci agli organizzatori e mette alla berlina nequizie e inettitudini dei cinesi. Hotel che dovevano essere pronti per i Giochi ma che non sono stati terminati, sono stati dipinti esteriormente &#8211; come i fondali di Cinecittà &#8211; pur di fare bella figura coi turisti. Muri sono stati eretti per nascondere alla vista dei visitatori il misero spettacolo delle bidonvilles pechinesi. Cinesi che abitualmente vivono nei loro quartieri a torso nudo, saranno obbligati, durante l&#8217;Olimpiade, a indossare camicie. Il video su Japan Probe. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-215446</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe when the wind blows LAs smog south.  Even in San Diego we&#039;d have &quot;LA smog&quot; days when the wind blew strong towards the south.  Normally, Orange County is pretty clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe when the wind blows LAs smog south.  Even in San Diego we&#8217;d have &#8220;LA smog&#8221; days when the wind blew strong towards the south.  Normally, Orange County is pretty clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister M</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-215380</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can I expect more about China and her bad image around the world? The worsest olimpic games in Asian lands will start this friday and the chinese people and politics are not really ready for such big event. Congratulations Japan and Korea for making us proud of our asian blood. 1964 Tokyo, 1972 Sapporo, 1988 Seoul, e 1998 Nagano good examples of wonderful organization ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I expect more about China and her bad image around the world? The worsest olimpic games in Asian lands will start this friday and the chinese people and politics are not really ready for such big event. Congratulations Japan and Korea for making us proud of our asian blood. 1964 Tokyo, 1972 Sapporo, 1988 Seoul, e 1998 Nagano good examples of wonderful organization ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-215375</link>
		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought Beijing had about the same air quality as where I live (orange county, california) but maybe i&#039;m just not that sensitive to air quality ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually thought Beijing had about the same air quality as where I live (orange county, california) but maybe i&#8217;m just not that sensitive to air quality &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: parcivale</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-1/#comment-215288</link>
		<dc:creator>parcivale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve never been to Beijing have you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve never been to Beijing have you?</p>
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		<title>By: Rip</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/08/05/beijing-olympics-shirtless-men-fake-products-and-potemkin-facades/comment-page-/#comment-215254</link>
		<dc:creator>Rip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, facts are pure propaganda and should be ignored and suppressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, facts are pure propaganda and should be ignored and suppressed.</p>
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		<title>By: helical</title>
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		<dc:creator>helical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy, freaking, hell. The boogieman IS real!

All this time I&#039;d thought the labeling and accusations of being an &quot;agent (工作員)&quot; in (mainly Japanese) net forums was just half-paranoia/half-obligatory joke whenever someone wanted to disagree with the general consensus of the community.
And then after dismissing &lt;a href=&quot;http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%B3%E9%83%A8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ホロン部&lt;/a&gt; as an urban legend, it comes back not just as a school club but as a full-fledged state-sponsored activity from the country next to it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trivia-library.com/b/origins-of-sayings-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thanks a lot Byron&lt;/a&gt;.

random filipino, I think you just destroyed my little-remaining confidence in the integrity of the Intertubes, or at least the pro-China parts of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy, freaking, hell. The boogieman IS real!</p>
<p>All this time I&#8217;d thought the labeling and accusations of being an &#8220;agent (工作員)&#8221; in (mainly Japanese) net forums was just half-paranoia/half-obligatory joke whenever someone wanted to disagree with the general consensus of the community.<br />
And then after dismissing <a href="http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%B3%E9%83%A8" rel="nofollow">ホロン部</a> as an urban legend, it comes back not just as a school club but as a full-fledged state-sponsored activity from the country next to it. <a href="http://www.trivia-library.com/b/origins-of-sayings-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction.htm" rel="nofollow">Thanks a lot Byron</a>.</p>
<p>random filipino, I think you just destroyed my little-remaining confidence in the integrity of the Intertubes, or at least the pro-China parts of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Witzl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Witzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too think it is important to focus on all the positive things that are happening in China, but when it comes to air quality, anyone who thinks Beijing and Tokyo are 50/50 in terms of pollution ought to try spending a week in each city for comparison. After Beijing, Tokyo might as well be Nagano.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too think it is important to focus on all the positive things that are happening in China, but when it comes to air quality, anyone who thinks Beijing and Tokyo are 50/50 in terms of pollution ought to try spending a week in each city for comparison. After Beijing, Tokyo might as well be Nagano.</p>
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		<title>By: random filipino</title>
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		<dc:creator>random filipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, I think Level3 is referring to the wu mao dang (fifty cent party).  Although it literally means 50 cent gang (i.e. their members get paid .50 RMB per pro-PRC post), it appears like not all of &#039;em are getting paid.  Right now, I think the term refers to all internet commentators trained or sponsored by the Chinese government, paid or not.  So, if you&#039;re not trained or sponsored by the PRC, then you&#039;re not part of the wumaodang.

Here&#039;s a fairly informative link (Danwei article quoting the Far Eastern Economic Review):

http://www.danwei.org/propaganda/more_on_the_50_cent_army.php

Anyway, existence of the wumaodang isn&#039;t too far off, with even PRC BBS commentators admitting to their existence. Add to that the fact that your typical pro-China post is so uncreative and so similar (especially during the Tibet incident - you&#039;ve never been to Tibet, you have no right to comment because you&#039;re not Chinese, you don&#039;t know anything about Chinese history, let&#039;s not politicize the (very political in nature) Olympics etc. etc.) that it&#039;s hard not to think that they probably just have a list of 5 or so arguments that they rehash over and over again.  Well that, or your typical Chinese commentator isn&#039;t too bright, which I&#039;d rather not believe.  Regardless, the arguments get really old.

&quot;As for Beijing’s “pollution”, Tokyo’s is probably just as bad, but never mind.&quot;

Kindly post your source as to why you say that Tokyo is as polluted as Beijing.  Basing on what I&#039;ve been reading about Beijing&#039;s pollution, I won&#039;t be surprised if Manila is cleaner.  But regardless, saying that pollution in Tokyo is just as bad as Beijing&#039;s, is, well, quite a stretch.  Here&#039;s a link I&#039;ve come across mentioning athletes training in China ending up with bronchitis and requiring medical attention because of the bad pollution.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121659379072468809.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

And, some numbers (pretty old though. Tokyo isn&#039;t in the list but Beijing is)

http://www.allcountries.org/air_pollution.

And, lastly, I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;re being so defensive.  I don&#039;t think anyone has accused you of being a wu mao dang member.  Cool down a bit man.  You&#039;re making us Filipinos look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, I think Level3 is referring to the wu mao dang (fifty cent party).  Although it literally means 50 cent gang (i.e. their members get paid .50 RMB per pro-PRC post), it appears like not all of &#8216;em are getting paid.  Right now, I think the term refers to all internet commentators trained or sponsored by the Chinese government, paid or not.  So, if you&#8217;re not trained or sponsored by the PRC, then you&#8217;re not part of the wumaodang.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a fairly informative link (Danwei article quoting the Far Eastern Economic Review):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.danwei.org/propaganda/more_on_the_50_cent_army.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.danwei.org/propaganda/more_on_the_50_cent_army.php</a></p>
<p>Anyway, existence of the wumaodang isn&#8217;t too far off, with even PRC BBS commentators admitting to their existence. Add to that the fact that your typical pro-China post is so uncreative and so similar (especially during the Tibet incident &#8211; you&#8217;ve never been to Tibet, you have no right to comment because you&#8217;re not Chinese, you don&#8217;t know anything about Chinese history, let&#8217;s not politicize the (very political in nature) Olympics etc. etc.) that it&#8217;s hard not to think that they probably just have a list of 5 or so arguments that they rehash over and over again.  Well that, or your typical Chinese commentator isn&#8217;t too bright, which I&#8217;d rather not believe.  Regardless, the arguments get really old.</p>
<p>&#8220;As for Beijing’s “pollution”, Tokyo’s is probably just as bad, but never mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kindly post your source as to why you say that Tokyo is as polluted as Beijing.  Basing on what I&#8217;ve been reading about Beijing&#8217;s pollution, I won&#8217;t be surprised if Manila is cleaner.  But regardless, saying that pollution in Tokyo is just as bad as Beijing&#8217;s, is, well, quite a stretch.  Here&#8217;s a link I&#8217;ve come across mentioning athletes training in China ending up with bronchitis and requiring medical attention because of the bad pollution.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121659379072468809.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121659379072468809.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</a></p>
<p>And, some numbers (pretty old though. Tokyo isn&#8217;t in the list but Beijing is)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allcountries.org/air_pollution" rel="nofollow">http://www.allcountries.org/air_pollution</a>.</p>
<p>And, lastly, I don&#8217;t understand why you&#8217;re being so defensive.  I don&#8217;t think anyone has accused you of being a wu mao dang member.  Cool down a bit man.  You&#8217;re making us Filipinos look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned Filipino</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned Filipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure anyone who even says anything against all the negative coverage (I mean, practically the only positive coverage I&#039;ve seen is that Nat Geo documentary on the Bird&#039;s Nest Olympic Stadium) against China is actually a &quot;paid agent of the Chinese&quot; (what, no unpaid agents!?). That means - I&#039;m an agent of the Chinese! I myself didn&#039;t know it! I must stress, however, that if I&#039;m a Chinese agent, it&#039;s purely volunteer work.

As for Beijing&#039;s &quot;pollution&quot;, Tokyo&#039;s is probably just as bad, but never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure anyone who even says anything against all the negative coverage (I mean, practically the only positive coverage I&#8217;ve seen is that Nat Geo documentary on the Bird&#8217;s Nest Olympic Stadium) against China is actually a &#8220;paid agent of the Chinese&#8221; (what, no unpaid agents!?). That means &#8211; I&#8217;m an agent of the Chinese! I myself didn&#8217;t know it! I must stress, however, that if I&#8217;m a Chinese agent, it&#8217;s purely volunteer work.</p>
<p>As for Beijing&#8217;s &#8220;pollution&#8221;, Tokyo&#8217;s is probably just as bad, but never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitrov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitrov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is normal for journalists to criticize and complain about some things in Beijing but it&#039;s everything i have seen about the games so far - the negatives , not a single word of normal coverage, nothing positive. Japan too had many problems with organizing the 64 Olympics, but we all remember it for its achievements ( like the great Nihon Budokan ) not flaws. so i suggest u stop h8in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is normal for journalists to criticize and complain about some things in Beijing but it&#8217;s everything i have seen about the games so far &#8211; the negatives , not a single word of normal coverage, nothing positive. Japan too had many problems with organizing the 64 Olympics, but we all remember it for its achievements ( like the great Nihon Budokan ) not flaws. so i suggest u stop h8in</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is hosting an immitation Olympics!  Don&#039;t be fooled into attending fake Olympic games!

They won&#039;t be able to hold the Olympics in Southern California if shirtless men are so controversial.  Wait a second, this is JAPAN complaining about public nudity?  Have they not seen their own diaper-clad-men-festivals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is hosting an immitation Olympics!  Don&#8217;t be fooled into attending fake Olympic games!</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t be able to hold the Olympics in Southern California if shirtless men are so controversial.  Wait a second, this is JAPAN complaining about public nudity?  Have they not seen their own diaper-clad-men-festivals?</p>
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		<title>By: Level3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Level3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah like the atheltes from Iraq who were turned down because their application was &quot;unaceptable&quot; [because the original corrupt Iraqi Olympic Committee were all kidnapped and never seen again,  and the IOC doesn&#039;t want to accept the new, locally appointed Iraqi Olympic Committee so they denied the application, or maybe they and/or the Chinsee hosts don&#039;t want an Iraqi Olypic delegation showing the world that the situation in Iraq is improving, but that&#039;s a  bit of a stretch]

Or how about the athletes, whose worries seem to be quite justified, that Beijing&#039;s polluted air is a health risk?

So yes, let&#039;s focus on the athletes&#039; stories, even the inconvenient ones. &gt;:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah like the atheltes from Iraq who were turned down because their application was &#8220;unaceptable&#8221; [because the original corrupt Iraqi Olympic Committee were all kidnapped and never seen again,  and the IOC doesn't want to accept the new, locally appointed Iraqi Olympic Committee so they denied the application, or maybe they and/or the Chinsee hosts don't want an Iraqi Olypic delegation showing the world that the situation in Iraq is improving, but that's a  bit of a stretch]</p>
<p>Or how about the athletes, whose worries seem to be quite justified, that Beijing&#8217;s polluted air is a health risk?</p>
<p>So yes, let&#8217;s focus on the athletes&#8217; stories, even the inconvenient ones. &gt;:(</p>
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		<title>By: Level3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Level3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this this Olympics has fake Olympics goods Made in China?
How is that different from any other Olympics in the last 30 years? ;)
Oh, wait, maybe THIS time the Chinese government actually will try to put a stop to it?

I fully support all fake Olympics goods. With what the Olympics has become, a professional ring of corruption extorting bribes from as many cities around the globe as possible, and accepting bribes to introduce new &quot;sports&quot; (keirin, anyone?), and probably also accepting (evidently smaller) bribes from sports associations whose sport they later eliminate anyway, hosting a semi-annual event in which all of the athletes perform FOR FREE, yet raking in billions of dollar in advetising rights and TV rights, while governments build entire sports complexes for them FOR FREE, I&#039;m not exactly sympathetic about any lost money for them.

BTW, a hearty welcome to the paid agents of the Chinsese government, and/or their 30,000man strong INternet monitoring police force, trying to complain about any and all criticism of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this this Olympics has fake Olympics goods Made in China?<br />
How is that different from any other Olympics in the last 30 years? <img src='http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Oh, wait, maybe THIS time the Chinese government actually will try to put a stop to it?</p>
<p>I fully support all fake Olympics goods. With what the Olympics has become, a professional ring of corruption extorting bribes from as many cities around the globe as possible, and accepting bribes to introduce new &#8220;sports&#8221; (keirin, anyone?), and probably also accepting (evidently smaller) bribes from sports associations whose sport they later eliminate anyway, hosting a semi-annual event in which all of the athletes perform FOR FREE, yet raking in billions of dollar in advetising rights and TV rights, while governments build entire sports complexes for them FOR FREE, I&#8217;m not exactly sympathetic about any lost money for them.</p>
<p>BTW, a hearty welcome to the paid agents of the Chinsese government, and/or their 30,000man strong INternet monitoring police force, trying to complain about any and all criticism of China.</p>
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		<title>By: marinaliteyears</title>
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		<dc:creator>marinaliteyears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this is off-topic. Does anyone know why it was suddenly difficult to get on Japanprobe.com? just wondering^.^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this is off-topic. Does anyone know why it was suddenly difficult to get on Japanprobe.com? just wondering^.^</p>
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		<title>By: VonSkippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>VonSkippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, they&#039;re only cracking down on half naked MEN right?  Half naked women are hopefully still ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, they&#8217;re only cracking down on half naked MEN right?  Half naked women are hopefully still ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Theanphibian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theanphibian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would buy one of the cruddy hats just so 50 years down the road I could say &quot;yep, this is what China used to be like&quot;.  I don&#039;t see things getting worse for them, so I don&#039;t see how any of this is supposed to be a big deal, or even all that bad of a thing.  I mean, let&#039;s focus on the right things.

Their government on the other hand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would buy one of the cruddy hats just so 50 years down the road I could say &#8220;yep, this is what China used to be like&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t see things getting worse for them, so I don&#8217;t see how any of this is supposed to be a big deal, or even all that bad of a thing.  I mean, let&#8217;s focus on the right things.</p>
<p>Their government on the other hand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: /r/</title>
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		<dc:creator>/r/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, what countries preparing for the Olympics don&#039;t try to show how great there country is? Every country does this. In Australia they tried to round up all the homeless people in preparation for Sydney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, what countries preparing for the Olympics don&#8217;t try to show how great there country is? Every country does this. In Australia they tried to round up all the homeless people in preparation for Sydney.</p>
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		<title>By: LeslieC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeslieC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only the Japanese but also much of the American pre-Olympic coverage seems more concerned with finding things wrong in China than celebrating the spirit of the Olympic Games. Give it a rest, let&#039;s focus on the athletes and the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only the Japanese but also much of the American pre-Olympic coverage seems more concerned with finding things wrong in China than celebrating the spirit of the Olympic Games. Give it a rest, let&#8217;s focus on the athletes and the competition.</p>
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