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	<title>Comments on: Japanese scientist: &#8216;Recycling is rubbish&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-390104</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who believes man&#039;s pollution has nothing to do with problems in rivers, oceans, soil and air is a blind idiot. Anyone who believes that burning instead of recycling forgets that most of the materials burned come from finite resources and there is plenty of sustainable, renewable energy to recycle them if the systems are deployed. Certainly today with limited sustainable renewable energy systems this concept is hard to grasp - but a wise species would develop both sustainable mining and manufacturing policies and energy and pollution control policies - or we choke our planet with our crap - just as we choke the internet with debates (and articles) like this - when we should be filling the internet with education and organizations that bring people together under common goals - instead of dividing us. WHEN we act like a united team THEN we can make a difference. Until then, whether you believe in global warming or recycling or not - it is all just chattering monkeys in the jungle. WHEN you take action THEN you are making a difference - until then you&#039;re just hot air no matter what you believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who believes man&#8217;s pollution has nothing to do with problems in rivers, oceans, soil and air is a blind idiot. Anyone who believes that burning instead of recycling forgets that most of the materials burned come from finite resources and there is plenty of sustainable, renewable energy to recycle them if the systems are deployed. Certainly today with limited sustainable renewable energy systems this concept is hard to grasp &#8211; but a wise species would develop both sustainable mining and manufacturing policies and energy and pollution control policies &#8211; or we choke our planet with our crap &#8211; just as we choke the internet with debates (and articles) like this &#8211; when we should be filling the internet with education and organizations that bring people together under common goals &#8211; instead of dividing us. WHEN we act like a united team THEN we can make a difference. Until then, whether you believe in global warming or recycling or not &#8211; it is all just chattering monkeys in the jungle. WHEN you take action THEN you are making a difference &#8211; until then you&#8217;re just hot air no matter what you believe.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-211105</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate

http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: fh</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-/#comment-207508</link>
		<dc:creator>fh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And where, pray tell, did religion become a relevant topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where, pray tell, did religion become a relevant topic?</p>
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		<title>By: straydog scraps &#187; Scraps And Morsels 20080724</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-207134</link>
		<dc:creator>straydog scraps &#187; Scraps And Morsels 20080724</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Japanese scientist: &#8216;Recycling is rubbish&#8217; &#124; Japan Probe [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206768</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Ashley, I have no idea what you&#039;re saying.</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206415</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biofuel fiasco is the result of massive amounts of corn being produced in the US and the current administration wanting to look eco-friendly.  In order to compete with American production of corn, the EU has been taking advantage of African nations to produce corn.  Biofuel is actually one of the side effects of not looking at things globally, and not making a concerted effort to actually produce alternative fuels.

And people are overly afraid of nuclear energy.  It takes a near catastrophic disaster combined with extreme negligence to create a nuclear meltdown, and in reality coal power plants produce more nuclear byproducts than nuclear plants:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From Scientific American&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The result: estimated radiation doses ingested by people living near the coal plants were equal to or higher than doses for people living around the nuclear facilities. At one extreme, the scientists estimated fly ash radiation in individuals&#039; bones at around 18 millirems (thousandths of a rem, a unit for measuring doses of ionizing radiation) a year. Doses for the two nuclear plants, by contrast, ranged from between three and six millirems for the same period. And when all food was grown in the area, radiation doses were 50 to 200 percent higher around the coal plants. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The biggest problem with nuclear energy is the waste produced by the power plants, but over the lifespan of the plant there is actually less waste than most power plants that simply dump CO2 into the atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biofuel fiasco is the result of massive amounts of corn being produced in the US and the current administration wanting to look eco-friendly.  In order to compete with American production of corn, the EU has been taking advantage of African nations to produce corn.  Biofuel is actually one of the side effects of not looking at things globally, and not making a concerted effort to actually produce alternative fuels.</p>
<p>And people are overly afraid of nuclear energy.  It takes a near catastrophic disaster combined with extreme negligence to create a nuclear meltdown, and in reality coal power plants produce more nuclear byproducts than nuclear plants:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste" rel="nofollow">From Scientific American</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The result: estimated radiation doses ingested by people living near the coal plants were equal to or higher than doses for people living around the nuclear facilities. At one extreme, the scientists estimated fly ash radiation in individuals&#8217; bones at around 18 millirems (thousandths of a rem, a unit for measuring doses of ionizing radiation) a year. Doses for the two nuclear plants, by contrast, ranged from between three and six millirems for the same period. And when all food was grown in the area, radiation doses were 50 to 200 percent higher around the coal plants. </p></blockquote>
<p>The biggest problem with nuclear energy is the waste produced by the power plants, but over the lifespan of the plant there is actually less waste than most power plants that simply dump CO2 into the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: stereo</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206405</link>
		<dc:creator>stereo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we do not know is what caused the rise in temperature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we do not know is what caused the rise in temperature.</p>
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		<title>By: stereo</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206404</link>
		<dc:creator>stereo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with you. Look at what people are doing to reduce CO2. Europeans are Building lots of nuclare power plants, which could be more damaging to the environment than CO2. Corns are used for fuel not for food, killing millions of poor people.

There is risk in believing CO2 global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with you. Look at what people are doing to reduce CO2. Europeans are Building lots of nuclare power plants, which could be more damaging to the environment than CO2. Corns are used for fuel not for food, killing millions of poor people.</p>
<p>There is risk in believing CO2 global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-/#comment-206390</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o.O  Um, yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o.O  Um, yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206384</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that scientific consensus means a lot in this case considering that for the past 8 years it has been big business and PR people dictating environmental policy.  I would agree with you that the community as a whole is not perfect, but moving forward on the side of caution seems much more sensible than doing nothing, which is what this Takeda is suggesting.
Based on current data, it&#039;s clear that glacial shelves around the world are deteriorating.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Retreat of Glaciers&lt;/a&gt;

We can argue until we&#039;re blue in the face whether this is natural or man-made destruction.  We can also look at increased CO2 since the turn of the last century and we can also look at increased temperatures.
Even if you don&#039;t want to put two and two together, the first and most logical step would be to look at the current situation and take steps at reducing the increase of CO2 emissions (unless you think increasing CO2 is completely fine - at which point the debate here is over).  This takes time and money, and CO2 isn&#039;t going to decrease on its own.
I understand that some people don&#039;t want to believe that man has an effect on the global environment, but what I don&#039;t understand is why advanced nations would rather wait to see if it&#039;s true.  Let&#039;s say that 20 years from now we finally determine that it was our fault all along.  Any changes to CO2 production will most likely take 10 years to implement and an additional 10 - 50 years to have any effect.  It&#039;s an extremely large gamble to continue to wait for concrete evidence.

And there are lots of reasons that developing nations won&#039;t have access to nuclear power, but I doubt that it is the fault of diverting money to environmental groups.  Take the US for example.  The EPA has a yearly budget of $7.1 billion dollars.  At the same time, the war in Iraq is costing us $12 billion dollars per month.
Second, I would argue that most developing nations won&#039;t have access to nuclear technology because of the fear of terrorism.  Nuclear power has a huge stigma attached to it, and that won&#039;t go away any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that scientific consensus means a lot in this case considering that for the past 8 years it has been big business and PR people dictating environmental policy.  I would agree with you that the community as a whole is not perfect, but moving forward on the side of caution seems much more sensible than doing nothing, which is what this Takeda is suggesting.<br />
Based on current data, it&#8217;s clear that glacial shelves around the world are deteriorating.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850" rel="nofollow">Retreat of Glaciers</a></p>
<p>We can argue until we&#8217;re blue in the face whether this is natural or man-made destruction.  We can also look at increased CO2 since the turn of the last century and we can also look at increased temperatures.<br />
Even if you don&#8217;t want to put two and two together, the first and most logical step would be to look at the current situation and take steps at reducing the increase of CO2 emissions (unless you think increasing CO2 is completely fine &#8211; at which point the debate here is over).  This takes time and money, and CO2 isn&#8217;t going to decrease on its own.<br />
I understand that some people don&#8217;t want to believe that man has an effect on the global environment, but what I don&#8217;t understand is why advanced nations would rather wait to see if it&#8217;s true.  Let&#8217;s say that 20 years from now we finally determine that it was our fault all along.  Any changes to CO2 production will most likely take 10 years to implement and an additional 10 &#8211; 50 years to have any effect.  It&#8217;s an extremely large gamble to continue to wait for concrete evidence.</p>
<p>And there are lots of reasons that developing nations won&#8217;t have access to nuclear power, but I doubt that it is the fault of diverting money to environmental groups.  Take the US for example.  The EPA has a yearly budget of $7.1 billion dollars.  At the same time, the war in Iraq is costing us $12 billion dollars per month.<br />
Second, I would argue that most developing nations won&#8217;t have access to nuclear technology because of the fear of terrorism.  Nuclear power has a huge stigma attached to it, and that won&#8217;t go away any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: fh</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206374</link>
		<dc:creator>fh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supporters and naysayers alike, read the following Wired article:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-07/pb_theory

The new age of Science will not be ruled by theories or facts (be they generally accepted or ridden with holes). Given our increasing computational ability to hoard data and process it, conflict-resolution (environmental or otherwise) will simply be determined by looking at data trends. That means Takeda&#039;s data may indeed show a current (and perhaps time-limited) trend that certain types of recycling have no significant benefits; but differing factors in the future could change those trends.

Theories are called &quot;theories&quot; for a reason: they are not perfect, and do not describe some law that can be applied on a global scale indefinitely. &quot;Data Science&quot; simply aims to dispel the illusion that &quot;theory&quot; is the goal. Why bother trying to develop a theory or pursue a consensus? All we really care about is the raw data, and it&#039;s right there in front of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supporters and naysayers alike, read the following Wired article:<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-07/pb_theory" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-07/pb_theory</a></p>
<p>The new age of Science will not be ruled by theories or facts (be they generally accepted or ridden with holes). Given our increasing computational ability to hoard data and process it, conflict-resolution (environmental or otherwise) will simply be determined by looking at data trends. That means Takeda&#8217;s data may indeed show a current (and perhaps time-limited) trend that certain types of recycling have no significant benefits; but differing factors in the future could change those trends.</p>
<p>Theories are called &#8220;theories&#8221; for a reason: they are not perfect, and do not describe some law that can be applied on a global scale indefinitely. &#8220;Data Science&#8221; simply aims to dispel the illusion that &#8220;theory&#8221; is the goal. Why bother trying to develop a theory or pursue a consensus? All we really care about is the raw data, and it&#8217;s right there in front of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206359</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, the whole scientific community is riddled with holes in their theories.

Saying that the scientific community agrees on something means very little.  In the 1970s the National Science Board warned of man-made global cooling, and that we were headed into a new ice age.

&quot;During the last 20-30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade.&quot; - 1974.

You can apply that quote almost directly to what we see in the media today!  Just change &quot;fallen&quot; to &quot;risen&quot;.

That developing nations will not have access to nuclear energy is partially the fault of developed nations having money diverted by environmental groups for earth studies, instead of investing it in TRUE aid.  (Not food, but a means to independence.)  What the developed world is doing is giving fish to the poor instead of teaching them how to go fishing themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, the whole scientific community is riddled with holes in their theories.</p>
<p>Saying that the scientific community agrees on something means very little.  In the 1970s the National Science Board warned of man-made global cooling, and that we were headed into a new ice age.</p>
<p>&#8220;During the last 20-30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade.&#8221; &#8211; 1974.</p>
<p>You can apply that quote almost directly to what we see in the media today!  Just change &#8220;fallen&#8221; to &#8220;risen&#8221;.</p>
<p>That developing nations will not have access to nuclear energy is partially the fault of developed nations having money diverted by environmental groups for earth studies, instead of investing it in TRUE aid.  (Not food, but a means to independence.)  What the developed world is doing is giving fish to the poor instead of teaching them how to go fishing themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206354</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes research to filter out the BS, which has nothing to do with intelligence.  You can&#039;t refute someone if you don&#039;t know what credentials they have and where they are mining their facts from, unless of course you have the base of knowledge required of working in some particular field.

Medical doctors can be intelligent people, but they may not know a whole lot about CO2 emissions, solar activity, and similar topics.  At least not enough to discredit a theory without having done research themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes research to filter out the BS, which has nothing to do with intelligence.  You can&#8217;t refute someone if you don&#8217;t know what credentials they have and where they are mining their facts from, unless of course you have the base of knowledge required of working in some particular field.</p>
<p>Medical doctors can be intelligent people, but they may not know a whole lot about CO2 emissions, solar activity, and similar topics.  At least not enough to discredit a theory without having done research themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206321</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, science does rely on facts, and the facts show that temperatures have risen steadily in the last 100 years.  There are occasional dips in the surface temperature but the mean over the past 100 years is going up.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Graph of surface temperatures&lt;/a&gt;

Also, global warming can cause lowered temperatures.  You have to take into account the entire climate and how the pieces fit together.  For example, Greenland consists mainly of glaciers.  Because of global warming the glaciers are melting at an increasing rate and pouring a tremendous amount of fresh water into the surrounding ocean which in turn lowers the salt content of the currents and depresses the Gulf Stream - this would change all of the weather patterns in Europe.  Also heat transfer slows down because there is less difference between the cold and hot regions.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/Greenland/greenland_sidebar.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why ice at Greenland is important&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, science does rely on facts, and the facts show that temperatures have risen steadily in the last 100 years.  There are occasional dips in the surface temperature but the mean over the past 100 years is going up.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png" rel="nofollow">Graph of surface temperatures</a></p>
<p>Also, global warming can cause lowered temperatures.  You have to take into account the entire climate and how the pieces fit together.  For example, Greenland consists mainly of glaciers.  Because of global warming the glaciers are melting at an increasing rate and pouring a tremendous amount of fresh water into the surrounding ocean which in turn lowers the salt content of the currents and depresses the Gulf Stream &#8211; this would change all of the weather patterns in Europe.  Also heat transfer slows down because there is less difference between the cold and hot regions.</p>
<p><a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/Greenland/greenland_sidebar.html" rel="nofollow">Why ice at Greenland is important</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206314</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best part.  If they&#039;re right, technology still has improved, we lower our ecological footprint, have cleaner air and water and we&#039;ll have lower cost energy alternatives.  Plus, even better we don&#039;t have to deal with global warming problems.

If people like this are wrong and we&#039;re not doing anything to help the environment: we&#039;re screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best part.  If they&#8217;re right, technology still has improved, we lower our ecological footprint, have cleaner air and water and we&#8217;ll have lower cost energy alternatives.  Plus, even better we don&#8217;t have to deal with global warming problems.</p>
<p>If people like this are wrong and we&#8217;re not doing anything to help the environment: we&#8217;re screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Ashley, what is your point?  I seriously have no idea what you&#039;re getting at.

You first said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Progress, according to humanity, is simply to make attempts are doing various things in various ways and experiment - which is, in actual fact, quite confluent with how nature works anyway.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then you say:

&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s what they said when they found RUBBER, and OIL.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So are you advocating for progress or for stopping?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Ashley, what is your point?  I seriously have no idea what you&#8217;re getting at.</p>
<p>You first said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Progress, according to humanity, is simply to make attempts are doing various things in various ways and experiment &#8211; which is, in actual fact, quite confluent with how nature works anyway.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then you say:</p>
<blockquote><p>That’s what they said when they found RUBBER, and OIL.</p></blockquote>
<p>So are you advocating for progress or for stopping?</p>
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		<title>By: revil</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206299</link>
		<dc:creator>revil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a consensus on gravity too and we haven&#039;t proven that yet too.  lets throw that out too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a consensus on gravity too and we haven&#8217;t proven that yet too.  lets throw that out too!</p>
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		<title>By: revil</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206294</link>
		<dc:creator>revil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you are wrong, then you will look even more of a jack-ass, won&#039;t you?  At least we are taking precautions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you are wrong, then you will look even more of a jack-ass, won&#8217;t you?  At least we are taking precautions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Witzl</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206291</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Witzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Kevin on this too.   And I&#039;m seriously hoping my husband won&#039;t find Dr Takeda&#039;s article; I have a hard enough time getting him to put his glass and aluminum into separate bins as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Kevin on this too.   And I&#8217;m seriously hoping my husband won&#8217;t find Dr Takeda&#8217;s article; I have a hard enough time getting him to put his glass and aluminum into separate bins as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: YT</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206290</link>
		<dc:creator>YT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206290</guid>
		<description>Lots of people are knowledgeable. Just the wrong kind of knowledge. It takes intelligence to filter out the bs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people are knowledgeable. Just the wrong kind of knowledge. It takes intelligence to filter out the bs.</p>
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		<title>By: sod</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206275</link>
		<dc:creator>sod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206275</guid>
		<description>interesting...so when the oil runs out what are we going to make plastic out of?as far as im aware you cant make it from biofuels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting&#8230;so when the oil runs out what are we going to make plastic out of?as far as im aware you cant make it from biofuels</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206222</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206222</guid>
		<description>Knowledgeable people know this. Intelligence has nothing to do with knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowledgeable people know this. Intelligence has nothing to do with knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: bulat</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206221</link>
		<dc:creator>bulat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206221</guid>
		<description>I agree with him and had a similar opinion before reading the article. Of course, as a regular citizen i don&#039;t have nearly as much information and knowledge about the issue, so my opinion might be biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with him and had a similar opinion before reading the article. Of course, as a regular citizen i don&#8217;t have nearly as much information and knowledge about the issue, so my opinion might be biased.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206210</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when are Europeans in the driving seat? Last time I checked the US was the sole superpower - and they are not very keen on tackling global warming. Or did it say 欧米人 = &quot;Westerners&quot; in the original article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when are Europeans in the driving seat? Last time I checked the US was the sole superpower &#8211; and they are not very keen on tackling global warming. Or did it say 欧米人 = &#8220;Westerners&#8221; in the original article?</p>
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		<title>By: Blacknimbus</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206205</link>
		<dc:creator>Blacknimbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206205</guid>
		<description>Science doesn&#039;t rely on &#039;consensus&#039;...it relies on facts.  It&#039;s testable and repeatable.  Man-made global warming doesn&#039;t stand up to that standard.  In fact, the numbers since 2001 don&#039;t indicate a warming trend...temperatures have gone down.  The models didn&#039;t predict that.  

There was &#039;consensus&#039; on eugenics in the early part of the last century.  Just because a lot of scientists think an idea is sound doesn&#039;t make it so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science doesn&#8217;t rely on &#8216;consensus&#8217;&#8230;it relies on facts.  It&#8217;s testable and repeatable.  Man-made global warming doesn&#8217;t stand up to that standard.  In fact, the numbers since 2001 don&#8217;t indicate a warming trend&#8230;temperatures have gone down.  The models didn&#8217;t predict that.  </p>
<p>There was &#8216;consensus&#8217; on eugenics in the early part of the last century.  Just because a lot of scientists think an idea is sound doesn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206189</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206189</guid>
		<description>There is no consensus of scientist on this.  There are more and more scientist saying man has nothing to do with climate change on earth or the various other planets that are showing a slight elevation in temperature due to solar activity. When people say we have to do something now and we must move forward, progess etc. etc., it reminds me of Wesley Mouch and the others from Atlas Shrugged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no consensus of scientist on this.  There are more and more scientist saying man has nothing to do with climate change on earth or the various other planets that are showing a slight elevation in temperature due to solar activity. When people say we have to do something now and we must move forward, progess etc. etc., it reminds me of Wesley Mouch and the others from Atlas Shrugged.</p>
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		<title>By: Cesar Reyes</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206188</link>
		<dc:creator>Cesar Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206188</guid>
		<description>I agree with the global warming thing, thats absolute bollocks.His other theories are pretty cracked though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the global warming thing, thats absolute bollocks.His other theories are pretty cracked though</p>
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		<title>By: tomtom</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206184</link>
		<dc:creator>tomtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but if in the end they somehow turn out to be right your all going to look like jackasses won&#039;t you. 

I tend to take most of what scientists and experts say with a pinch of salt, it all sounds like handbags at dawn to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but if in the end they somehow turn out to be right your all going to look like jackasses won&#8217;t you. </p>
<p>I tend to take most of what scientists and experts say with a pinch of salt, it all sounds like handbags at dawn to me</p>
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		<title>By: velops</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206110</link>
		<dc:creator>velops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206110</guid>
		<description>Recycling is only worthless until the Japanese are forced into tough decisions. Without recycling, it would be only a matter of time before all of their forests would have to be chopped down to create paper for the manga industry.

Burning plastic always releases extremely toxic chemicals into the air no matter how high-tech the incinerator. Tokyo has one of the worst air quality ratings in the world. Air pollution is only the beginning. The price of crude oil drives up the price of anything not made of recycled plastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recycling is only worthless until the Japanese are forced into tough decisions. Without recycling, it would be only a matter of time before all of their forests would have to be chopped down to create paper for the manga industry.</p>
<p>Burning plastic always releases extremely toxic chemicals into the air no matter how high-tech the incinerator. Tokyo has one of the worst air quality ratings in the world. Air pollution is only the beginning. The price of crude oil drives up the price of anything not made of recycled plastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthieu</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206107</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthieu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206107</guid>
		<description>Kevin said it all: this guy is amusing for two seconds, but you see cracks in his (numerous!) theories just by the naked eye.
The actual ecology vibe should be carefully monitored, especially with new energy-of-the-future published in newspaper everyday, but he is completely out of his subject. In every country you can find a guy tenured-professor-master-in-his-castle type that will brag on and on on him possessing the truth that nobody ever understood. Usually, it ends up with big ego and zero facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin said it all: this guy is amusing for two seconds, but you see cracks in his (numerous!) theories just by the naked eye.<br />
The actual ecology vibe should be carefully monitored, especially with new energy-of-the-future published in newspaper everyday, but he is completely out of his subject. In every country you can find a guy tenured-professor-master-in-his-castle type that will brag on and on on him possessing the truth that nobody ever understood. Usually, it ends up with big ego and zero facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Flaffer</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206103</link>
		<dc:creator>Flaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206103</guid>
		<description>Kevin is right on: this guy is bullocks and spouting unsupported BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin is right on: this guy is bullocks and spouting unsupported BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-/#comment-206090</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206090</guid>
		<description>Who said anything about stopping?  Proactive steps to help the environment involve moving forward.  You want to see what stopping has done - take a look at the US government&#039;s environmental policy.  Create better material alternatives, create energy-saving houses and cars, create better garbage treatment facilities - these steps don&#039;t involve stopping.

This is not the time to sit back and chill like this professor is advocating.  We can look at this in two ways - either we do nothing and hope for the best in the future like Takeda says, or we can make a concerted effort now to improve technology as it exists.  The first one leaves no room for error, the second choice gets the ball rolling early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about stopping?  Proactive steps to help the environment involve moving forward.  You want to see what stopping has done &#8211; take a look at the US government&#8217;s environmental policy.  Create better material alternatives, create energy-saving houses and cars, create better garbage treatment facilities &#8211; these steps don&#8217;t involve stopping.</p>
<p>This is not the time to sit back and chill like this professor is advocating.  We can look at this in two ways &#8211; either we do nothing and hope for the best in the future like Takeda says, or we can make a concerted effort now to improve technology as it exists.  The first one leaves no room for error, the second choice gets the ball rolling early.</p>
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		<title>By: underwaterexplosions</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206070</link>
		<dc:creator>underwaterexplosions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He may be right on some points, but I still don&#039;t see the harm in reducing one&#039;s ecological footprint. We are damaging the Earth. We are pushing millions of species of animals to extinction. It seems like this guy is giving those who read his articles or listen to him a free pass to do whatever it is they want to. I don&#039;t respect that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may be right on some points, but I still don&#8217;t see the harm in reducing one&#8217;s ecological footprint. We are damaging the Earth. We are pushing millions of species of animals to extinction. It seems like this guy is giving those who read his articles or listen to him a free pass to do whatever it is they want to. I don&#8217;t respect that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206069</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These points he makes are stupid and according to a consensus of scientists around the globe - wrong.

Of course recycling takes more energy.  The purpose of recycling is not to &#039;get rid&#039; of trash, though.  It&#039;s to reuse garbage in other ways - i.e. reduce the amount of resources being consumed.  Not to mention that burning garbage releases dioxins into the air.

And just take a look at the global warming page on wiki:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The average global air temperature near the Earth&#039;s surface increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 ± 0.32 °F) during the hundred years ending in 2005.[1] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes &quot;most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-twentieth century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic (man-made) greenhouse gas concentrations&quot;[1] via an enhanced greenhouse effect. Natural phenomena such as solar variation combined with volcanoes probably had a small warming effect from pre-industrial times to 1950 and a small cooling effect from 1950 onward.[2][3]

These basic conclusions have been endorsed by at least thirty scientific societies and academies of science,[4] including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.[5][6][7] While individual scientists have voiced disagreement with some findings of the IPCC,[8] the overwhelming majority of scientists working on climate change agree with the IPCC&#039;s main conclusions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are so many holes in everything he says, it&#039;s hard to know where to begin.  The only thing of value in this interview is his &#039;observation&#039; of how using biofuels causes food shortages.  Anybody and their brother can see this just by looking at the price of corn.

He says the energy crisis is nothing to worry about because in 40 years nuclear energy will be safer and more efficient.  He fails to mention that developing nations probably won&#039;t have access to nuclear energy (lack of building funds and nuclear fuel) and also that cars and factories don&#039;t run on nuclear energy - they run on fossil fuels.  Unless you come up with an alternative to these fuels, nuclear energy doesn&#039;t do squat.

Seriously, his idea of progress is to sit around and do nothing while hoping that human ingenuity will pull us through these issues.  It takes planning and government subsidies to get research moving, and it takes careful planning to market new alternatives to the public.  Sounds to me like he&#039;s just going against common sense to sell books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These points he makes are stupid and according to a consensus of scientists around the globe &#8211; wrong.</p>
<p>Of course recycling takes more energy.  The purpose of recycling is not to &#8216;get rid&#8217; of trash, though.  It&#8217;s to reuse garbage in other ways &#8211; i.e. reduce the amount of resources being consumed.  Not to mention that burning garbage releases dioxins into the air.</p>
<p>And just take a look at the global warming page on wiki:</p>
<blockquote><p>The average global air temperature near the Earth&#8217;s surface increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 ± 0.32 °F) during the hundred years ending in 2005.[1] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes &#8220;most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-twentieth century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic (man-made) greenhouse gas concentrations&#8221;[1] via an enhanced greenhouse effect. Natural phenomena such as solar variation combined with volcanoes probably had a small warming effect from pre-industrial times to 1950 and a small cooling effect from 1950 onward.[2][3]</p>
<p>These basic conclusions have been endorsed by at least thirty scientific societies and academies of science,[4] including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.[5][6][7] While individual scientists have voiced disagreement with some findings of the IPCC,[8] the overwhelming majority of scientists working on climate change agree with the IPCC&#8217;s main conclusions.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are so many holes in everything he says, it&#8217;s hard to know where to begin.  The only thing of value in this interview is his &#8216;observation&#8217; of how using biofuels causes food shortages.  Anybody and their brother can see this just by looking at the price of corn.</p>
<p>He says the energy crisis is nothing to worry about because in 40 years nuclear energy will be safer and more efficient.  He fails to mention that developing nations probably won&#8217;t have access to nuclear energy (lack of building funds and nuclear fuel) and also that cars and factories don&#8217;t run on nuclear energy &#8211; they run on fossil fuels.  Unless you come up with an alternative to these fuels, nuclear energy doesn&#8217;t do squat.</p>
<p>Seriously, his idea of progress is to sit around and do nothing while hoping that human ingenuity will pull us through these issues.  It takes planning and government subsidies to get research moving, and it takes careful planning to market new alternatives to the public.  Sounds to me like he&#8217;s just going against common sense to sell books.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206060</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206060</guid>
		<description>This has already been proven true many times. Just go watch Penn &amp; Teller&#039;s Bullshit. They already did a whole episode on debunking the myth of recycling. Same with many other science shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has already been proven true many times. Just go watch Penn &amp; Teller&#8217;s Bullshit. They already did a whole episode on debunking the myth of recycling. Same with many other science shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Minister</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206054</link>
		<dc:creator>Minister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206054</guid>
		<description>This isn&#039;t new information, but Im just happy to see that its a &quot;Best Seller&quot;.  Proof that people are at least seeing that there isn&#039;t just one truth, whether or not they believe in the media and propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t new information, but Im just happy to see that its a &#8220;Best Seller&#8221;.  Proof that people are at least seeing that there isn&#8217;t just one truth, whether or not they believe in the media and propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: caseinpoint</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206018</link>
		<dc:creator>caseinpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intelligent people already know this</description>
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		<title>By: ninjaboy</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-206016</link>
		<dc:creator>ninjaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=5286#comment-206016</guid>
		<description>good article</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/07/22/japanese-scientist-recycling-is-rubbish/comment-page-1/#comment-205999</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What he said actually makes sense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he said actually makes sense</p>
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