“It’s crazy!! According to their opinion, US government has to give their land back to Native American. Australia too?”

“Well…to be honest, they should.”

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You, Mr. “concerned Filipino” has just embarrassed a fellow Filipino with this comment of yours. Before you say something like return America to the Native Americans, you should first say that the dominant Tagalogs should just return the lands of the various ethnic groups they appropriated a century ago (or heck, even during the past 30 or 40 years, you know, like some parcels of Cordilleran land, all because the ethnic groups of the mountains had no idea that you can actually, you know, “own” land simply by applying for it with the government). Or better yet, return all of the Philippine land (yes, all of our land titles) to the Itas and Negritos, who happen to be the first inhabitants of the Philippines hundreds or thousands of years ago. I’m not sure about you, but I agree with yhap that it is crazy. And next time you comment, kindly modify your handle. Thanks.

And regarding the issue, I say the best way to resolve this is to bring it to the International Court. The fact that it hasn’t been brought to court yet means that one party thinks that their case is weak and they’ll lose. To bring the issue closer to home, it’s the same with the Spratly island hullaballoo between the Philippines, Vietnam and China. China refuses to bring the dispute to the International court despite the fact that the Philippines would welcome the move (not sure about Vietnam) because they know their sole claim to the islands is this “ancient” map from whenever (that has been proven to be erroneous by the way). So they just send the PLA and their subs to “assert” their claims over the islands. No way they’re going to the International Court.

What do you _____________ know about _______________ History?

What a pointless remark to make. You’re arguing that because (s)he is not a resident of an Asian country that (s)he has no idea about Asian history? Actually, (s)he may have a better perspective on Asian history and inter-Asian policies because (s)he is an observer on the outside.

The thing with East-Asian powers is they love to play the roles of the victims.

This whole “East Sea” campaign is just an anti-Japan circus. The Korean media loves to rotate nationalistic stories to get viewers, and in their rotation they include “Takeshima/Dokdo”, Japanese history textbooks, comfort women, Yasukuni, Sea of Japan/East Sea, and possibly anything else they can scheme up to portray Japan as secretly plotting to invade East Asia again. When one story loses its juice, they bring back another story in the rotation queue; you can almost set your calendar by it. Just the other day I commented to a friend, “I haven’t heard much about Takedo/Dokshima lately. ‘Bout that time again, hey?” Lo and behold!

Koreans can go on calling the body of water 동해, as will anyone else when they speak in Korean, the rest of the world will call it what they’re comfortable with.

What do you European know about Asian History?

America diecides what to call everything not anyone else. And Americans went by the Japanese name.

False. The name “Sea of Japan” seems to derive from European-made maps – the name may have been given by a French explorer. When Japan opened itself up to the world and modernized, it changed the names on its maps to reflect the already-existing international standard (which had not been decided by America).

The Sea of Japan is its name in English for the same reason the Japanese use the American word Soccer for Football. America diecides what to call everything not anyone else. And Americans went by the Japanese name.

What I notice about most of the arguments on the Korean-side of debates is that logic is second-place to unyielding passion and name-calling. By the same token, Korea should apologize for trying to invade Japan in the late 13th century, unprovoked. They may as well just say, “You started it.” And that was possibly not even the first time. There was also the Toi Invasion of Japan in the early 11th century, of which some were Korean pirates amongst Manchurian pirates.

As far as apologies for atrocities committed before the end of WWII – The current government of Japan was established after the war, meaning this Japanese government has nothing to do with old-Japan. It’s a new nation. At it’s very core, Koreans are holding the son accountable for the sins of the father. Still, Japanese have apologized for the actions of their countrymen, 41 times in fact. What the Japanese don’t like is being demanded of by nationalist nations abroad.

I don’t know what school you went to, but mine had a pretty well-balanced education and didn’t particularly paint the U.S. as heaven on Earth.

The Persian Gulf is “a huge nuclear ocean of fire waiting to happen”.

The Aegean Sea is just a good, if not risky, vacation spot.

To be honest, I have just been fed up with their attitude these days.
(Japanese government diplomatic skill is deadly poor too.)

They have said “ Apologize! Apologize!” for more than 60 years.
(I wonder if they will keep it for thousand years as a diplomatic card.)
If they want to appeal “ 2000 years” they should take up the invasion to JP by the complex troops Korean, Chinese , Mongolian 700 years ago. ( It’s crazy!!! Haha)
Also they should disclose every documents of bargain between JP and SK after ww2 to the world. Most of people in the world might not know it in detail.

Have you ever read Korean text book for children?
Ask an impression about JP to Korean children when you have an opportunity.
Almost of all them will say “I hate Japan” or “Japanese is evil ” I think it is a kind of brain wash. How can we make good friendship with people who are imputed negative images against JP at school? You can image that is very difficult.

KOREA NEVER OFFERED ANNEXATION FIRST!!! That’s for sure. Lee Ik-Jik / Lee Wan Yong is considered as Korean’s worst enemy through out the history. Queen of Korea back then never agreed on your offer. She was strong enough to kick Lee Ik-Jik/Lee Wan Yong’s ass out from the country.

And what did Japan do? You felt that things were not working out as you intended because of her and you sent your “GLORIOUS” samurai, and killed Korean Queen. Did you know about this part? Just wondering when did Japan’s famous Samurai became woman slaughter?? haha… Wimp asses. I am sure all the stories about samurai in your history is lie, too.

You Japanese always have tendency to hide things that you’ve done wrong to the other country. All you did through out the history is hiding and lying.

It seems like you are the one who doesn’t know jack shit about history and talking shit from one side of YOUR OWN HISTORY that is written with full of bull shit.

Even Korea wasn’t strong, Korea always managed to kick your ass from Japanese’ attack with/without help from the other countries. Don’t pretend and act like Japan is the winner. The fact is that Japan is the loser from war and you do not have right to declare other’s property.

That 35 years from 1909-1945, Koreans think these years as terrified and years of shamed by Japan.

So get lost and stop bother Korea. You can not prove anything because you know you are lying.

In 1592(? or 1593), Korean navy with 13 ships kicked your 100+ navy ships. <=== This is the fact, do you find anything like this in your history? haha

— Go Gu Ryu

Let’s look at the history.
Some Japanese recall Dok Do as their properties as well as the southern part of the Russia and southern part of China. Because they’ve captured those lands through war.

Let’s go back even before. Japan was once governed by Korea prior to 600 AD. Japan wasn’t civilized back then and Korea, Baek-Jae, one of the old nation in Korea, helped Japan set up the civilization. You will find a lots of similarity between Baek-Jae’s culture and Japanese culture. One of the Prince from Baek-Jae even went over to Japan and ruled the country.

Is this mean that Japan belongs to Korea since the prince of Baek-Jae ruled Japan previously? Would Japan agree to it? I wish they do!!!

Nobody in Korea ever liked Japan took over Korea between 1909 – 1945. Matter in fact, Koreans were fighting against Japan to free Korea. Luckily, Japan was too greedy and US smacked Japan’s ass big time, which resulted Japan losing their war as well as all the deprived properties from other countries through out the war.

Let’s put it this way. Was southern part of China ever part of Japan originally? Was southern part of Russia ever part of Japan? Hell NO! So was Dok-Do. Dok Do always have been with Korea even beofore Japan was civilized!!!

Japan is just being greedy again as they were being greedy before. It’s because they have lack of resources and need lands to expand. Japan should be shameful of modifying history based on untrue fact.

In adds, the title of this article, “Korean Ultra Activist Group…etc” it’s totally wrong again. It’s a singer, a single singer, paid the all the advertisement fee to NYT. You are making things look bad so that your activist gets mad at Koreans. You never get things right, don’t you? Why don’t you start write history and issues based on the true fact???? You should be ashamed yourself.

— Go Gu Ryu

But seriously, it’s such a big mystery why they keep refusing to settle this in court once and for all if they’re so sure it’s theirs … unless, you know, they’re not.

Well…to be honest, they should. But not everything that should happen in this world will happen, now will it?

The Sea of Japan / East Sea on my map is simply called “an international political mess of an ocean”. Takeshima/Dokdo is “pride island”.

I don’t see any Korean campaigns to rename the Yellow Sea or East China Sea to fit the local names, which tells me quite a bit about what the real issue here is.

It’s win/win for everybody!

Regarding of this issue, S Korea have never accepted to fight in the international court so far.
Why not? Because they do know that they never win.

I am sure the Koreans probably have called the Sea of Japan the “East Sea” for 2000 years – it is to their east, after all, just as the Yellow Sea is to their west. But it is not to the east of most other countries, and if it were not for the existence of the Japanese Archipelago it would not be the “East Sea”, “Sea of Japan” or anything else other than “The Pacific Ocean”.

*sigh*

http://dokdo-or-takeshima.blogspot.com/

*ducks*