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	<title>Comments on: Heavy Security As Japanese Soccer Team Plays Match In China</title>
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		<title>By: Zaciroth</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/04/24/heavy-security-as-japanese-soccer-team-plays-match-in-china/comment-page-1/#comment-163846</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaciroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But with Chinese relations you can&#039;t help but play on the safe side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But with Chinese relations you can&#8217;t help but play on the safe side.</p>
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		<title>By: jonske</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>opening vid image of that man looks like an asian michael jackson</description>
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		<title>By: hadji</title>
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		<dc:creator>hadji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That isn&#039;t a typical game because most draws never go to penalty kicks.

You don&#039;t know what you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That isn&#8217;t a typical game because most draws never go to penalty kicks.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ok please provide a link that shows Japanese football fans attacking other national teams thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ok please provide a link that shows Japanese football fans attacking other national teams thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: kaito</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I halfway agree. I like playing soccer more than watching. I can&#039;t watch sports much. I can only watch part of a game unless I am actually there (not tv).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I halfway agree. I like playing soccer more than watching. I can&#8217;t watch sports much. I can only watch part of a game unless I am actually there (not tv).</p>
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		<title>By: Level3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Level3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you mean &quot;soccer&quot;, I can&#039;t agree.
Sure, violence is entertainment.

But a sport in which the typical game is a
0-0 tie decided by a friggin penalty kick at the end
is unwatchable, boring, and clearly frustrating to the fans too, as so many seem to go nuts and get violent.

The fact that the most important skill in soccer is pretending to be in agonizing pain until the opposing team gets a penalty, then jumping up and getting right back to kicking the ball around until the 0-0 tie and the penalty kicks.  Not impressive.

Soccer = Yawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you mean &#8220;soccer&#8221;, I can&#8217;t agree.<br />
Sure, violence is entertainment.</p>
<p>But a sport in which the typical game is a<br />
0-0 tie decided by a friggin penalty kick at the end<br />
is unwatchable, boring, and clearly frustrating to the fans too, as so many seem to go nuts and get violent.</p>
<p>The fact that the most important skill in soccer is pretending to be in agonizing pain until the opposing team gets a penalty, then jumping up and getting right back to kicking the ball around until the 0-0 tie and the penalty kicks.  Not impressive.</p>
<p>Soccer = Yawn</p>
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		<title>By: jjjtango</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjjtango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>violence+football=damn good entertainment</description>
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		<title>By: parkmount</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/04/24/heavy-security-as-japanese-soccer-team-plays-match-in-china/comment-page-1/#comment-163451</link>
		<dc:creator>parkmount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Red Chinese have very much racist attitude in my observation.  I almost always see their subtle attitude change in dealing with others depending on the complexion.  They will get friendlier and a bit humble with the white, more aggressive and arrogant with the non-white and then become the master of the universe with the black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Red Chinese have very much racist attitude in my observation.  I almost always see their subtle attitude change in dealing with others depending on the complexion.  They will get friendlier and a bit humble with the white, more aggressive and arrogant with the non-white and then become the master of the universe with the black.</p>
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		<title>By: parkmount</title>
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		<dc:creator>parkmount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for you, seriously.  For the westerner, people would know they could be British, American, New Zealander, Canadian or whatever.  But, with Chinese, most people still associate any Chinese people with Red China because Red Chinese always insist that their racial origin is more important than origin of the country they are from.  And, that&#039;s how they identify themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for you, seriously.  For the westerner, people would know they could be British, American, New Zealander, Canadian or whatever.  But, with Chinese, most people still associate any Chinese people with Red China because Red Chinese always insist that their racial origin is more important than origin of the country they are from.  And, that&#8217;s how they identify themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: BakaNewMexican</title>
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		<dc:creator>BakaNewMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my memory is correct, PRCbots even threw a couple of molotov cocktails outside some of the venues.  

The behavior of Chinese fans was very deplorable durning the whole tournament.  

I remember watching one of the games Japan played (I can&#039;t remember against which country.  It might have been Qatar or something like that.) where the Chinese fans were actively supporting the opposing team.  The crowd got easily riled and very raucous and abusive. Fortunately, a headed goal by Yuji Nakazawa took the crowd out of the match before things got completely out of hand. 

Is that kind of behavior a sign of things to come during the Olympics?  Possibly.  Maybe.  

After all, the anti-Japan demonstrations that occurred in Shanghai and other places happened less than a year after the soccer tournament.  It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if it was the same people involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my memory is correct, PRCbots even threw a couple of molotov cocktails outside some of the venues.  </p>
<p>The behavior of Chinese fans was very deplorable durning the whole tournament.  </p>
<p>I remember watching one of the games Japan played (I can&#8217;t remember against which country.  It might have been Qatar or something like that.) where the Chinese fans were actively supporting the opposing team.  The crowd got easily riled and very raucous and abusive. Fortunately, a headed goal by Yuji Nakazawa took the crowd out of the match before things got completely out of hand. </p>
<p>Is that kind of behavior a sign of things to come during the Olympics?  Possibly.  Maybe.  </p>
<p>After all, the anti-Japan demonstrations that occurred in Shanghai and other places happened less than a year after the soccer tournament.  It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if it was the same people involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, and the hostile Chinese crowd even threw bottles and rocks at their own team just because of the loss. I&#039;m not not sure if it was during teh match you mentioned but it did happen before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, and the hostile Chinese crowd even threw bottles and rocks at their own team just because of the loss. I&#8217;m not not sure if it was during teh match you mentioned but it did happen before.</p>
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		<title>By: BakaNewMexican</title>
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		<dc:creator>BakaNewMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why what short memories people have!!!

Doesn&#039;t anyone remember watching the Asian Championships back in 2004 that were hosted by the PRC?  

Everywhere the Japanese team played (Chungking, Beijing, etc), the Japanese National Team and Japanese fans were subjected to all kinds of abuse from Chinese fans.  I remember incidents of taunting, throwing rocks at team bus, fights with fans, Chinese fans disrupting the playing of Kimigayo before each game, and, of course, burning flags. 

As the tournament wore on, the PRC authorities started to implement many of the security measures mentioned in this post due in large part of international criticism that the PRC wasn&#039;t doing anything to restrain the horrible behavior of the Chinese goons and thugs. 

For the final match between Japan and the PRC, Japanese fans were made to sit in their own section of the stadium and weren&#039;t allowed to leave the stadium until the PRCbots were gone.

In the end, it was A-OK since Zico&#039;s boys successfully defended their Asian title with that memorable defeat of the PRC in front of such a hostile crowd.

And, yes, I know that Koji Nakata&#039;s goal from a cornerkick against the PRC was a handball.  However, the referees thought the ball went off his body and into the goal.  No matter, Keiji Tamada&#039;s goal at the end of the match was pretty sweet.

J-League teams need to get it up if they want to be successful when playing other Asian teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why what short memories people have!!!</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone remember watching the Asian Championships back in 2004 that were hosted by the PRC?  </p>
<p>Everywhere the Japanese team played (Chungking, Beijing, etc), the Japanese National Team and Japanese fans were subjected to all kinds of abuse from Chinese fans.  I remember incidents of taunting, throwing rocks at team bus, fights with fans, Chinese fans disrupting the playing of Kimigayo before each game, and, of course, burning flags. </p>
<p>As the tournament wore on, the PRC authorities started to implement many of the security measures mentioned in this post due in large part of international criticism that the PRC wasn&#8217;t doing anything to restrain the horrible behavior of the Chinese goons and thugs. </p>
<p>For the final match between Japan and the PRC, Japanese fans were made to sit in their own section of the stadium and weren&#8217;t allowed to leave the stadium until the PRCbots were gone.</p>
<p>In the end, it was A-OK since Zico&#8217;s boys successfully defended their Asian title with that memorable defeat of the PRC in front of such a hostile crowd.</p>
<p>And, yes, I know that Koji Nakata&#8217;s goal from a cornerkick against the PRC was a handball.  However, the referees thought the ball went off his body and into the goal.  No matter, Keiji Tamada&#8217;s goal at the end of the match was pretty sweet.</p>
<p>J-League teams need to get it up if they want to be successful when playing other Asian teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who would want to go to one of these games wearing my Japan kit and try to provoke the Chinese?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who would want to go to one of these games wearing my Japan kit and try to provoke the Chinese?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it takes 2000 police to cover one soccer match the Olympics are doomed which is good for me. I love watching a good disaster unfold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it takes 2000 police to cover one soccer match the Olympics are doomed which is good for me. I love watching a good disaster unfold.</p>
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		<title>By: folosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>folosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Italy fans/thugs have large banners of racial slurrs of Jews/Africans enter ethnicty here ............ 

Each time an African player gets the ball they make monkey sounds on the stands. A while back Thuram who is French but African ethnicity flat out refused to play for a football team called Lazio because the fans are a bunch of fascists. It was Mussolinis team. I think some of you have seen Di Canio doing the fascist salute to Lazio fans. Then there was the incident with Eto who during a match just completely lost his cool picked up the ball and started walking off the pitch. The fans/thugs racist taunts had gotten inside his head. Compared to what is going on in parts of Europe this is nothing. Me being European think we Europeans are fairly stupid. We are arrogant and like to look down on others but I don&#039;t think anyone is as stupid as we are when coming to sport culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Italy fans/thugs have large banners of racial slurrs of Jews/Africans enter ethnicty here &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Each time an African player gets the ball they make monkey sounds on the stands. A while back Thuram who is French but African ethnicity flat out refused to play for a football team called Lazio because the fans are a bunch of fascists. It was Mussolinis team. I think some of you have seen Di Canio doing the fascist salute to Lazio fans. Then there was the incident with Eto who during a match just completely lost his cool picked up the ball and started walking off the pitch. The fans/thugs racist taunts had gotten inside his head. Compared to what is going on in parts of Europe this is nothing. Me being European think we Europeans are fairly stupid. We are arrogant and like to look down on others but I don&#8217;t think anyone is as stupid as we are when coming to sport culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Lei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really hate most mainland chinese especially the soccer fans. They&#039;re ill mannered , undisciplined and rude. Just because they&#039;re japanese doesnt mean they should take out all of their anger. You came to a soccer match to watch soccer not to make fun and beat up people of some race.

Because of them , some people like me are suffering from their behavior. I&#039;m an overseas chinese and life is pretty hard in japan for a chinese because the mainlanders themselves tarnish their own name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really hate most mainland chinese especially the soccer fans. They&#8217;re ill mannered , undisciplined and rude. Just because they&#8217;re japanese doesnt mean they should take out all of their anger. You came to a soccer match to watch soccer not to make fun and beat up people of some race.</p>
<p>Because of them , some people like me are suffering from their behavior. I&#8217;m an overseas chinese and life is pretty hard in japan for a chinese because the mainlanders themselves tarnish their own name.</p>
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		<title>By: folosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>folosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Chinese police started attacking Japanese fans unprovoked then it would be just like Italy and their fascist police.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iR4E7_V3ivs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Chinese police started attacking Japanese fans unprovoked then it would be just like Italy and their fascist police.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=iR4E7_V3ivs" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=iR4E7_V3ivs</a></p>
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		<title>By: AIB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like most football, from anywhere in the world really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like most football, from anywhere in the world really.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing out my error: just corrected the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out my error: just corrected the post.</p>
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		<title>By: ponta</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations !
Chinese team and Chinese soccer fans!!


試合終了後も日本人サポーターを最後に退席
When the  match ended, Japanese fans were allowed to leave their seats after other fans left.</description>
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Chinese team and Chinese soccer fans!!</p>
<p>試合終了後も日本人サポーターを最後に退席<br />
When the  match ended, Japanese fans were allowed to leave their seats after other fans left.</p>
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