Comments on: Warning! Top 5 Reasons Not to Let Your Daughter go to America http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/ Japan News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mi http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-413422 Mi Mon, 03 Jan 2011 01:05:34 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-413422 To whom it may concern: Excuse me, but as with all countries I must report that Japan is quite misinformed about America. Everyone builds up stereotypes about everyone. As over-romanticized as this is, I think the only path to world peace is through foreign exchange programs and thus the removal of this distressing stereotypes. Any American guy who has the nerve to report that he and all American guys would take advantage of a Japanese girl coming to the States is being an egotistical idiot. All men and women have their desires but there are few that are twisted enough to act on them. I am an American girl who has lived a perfectly normal high school life in a perfectly normal American city. I have been long studying Japan and a lot of the world in hopes of my future career. I am disturbed by the prevalence of racism and stereotyping. An American high-school or college is just like any other in the world, I would even dare say better. There are multitudes of opportunities in America, as there always has been. ANY person can climb the social ladder with the right determination. Americans are generally an accepting people, though a good many tend to be racist its usually in use as a sick shallow humor and absolutely never acted upon. In my experience, Asians are much more regarded as intriguing and respectable than as 'monkeys'. I am frankly rather disgusted by these stereotypes. I admit that Japan is known to be one of the safest countries out there, but America is similar. Unless you're living in one of the low-class neighborhoods that every country has (which could never afford to accept a foreign exchange student anyway), you are definitely safe. America cherishes foreigners. They are what built us in the first place. I am not being idealistic when I encourage foreigners to come here. This author is obviously a lady who is either basing all of her views on stereotypes or has had a bad experience in America. Bad experiences CAN happen, but just because one bad thing happens once doesn't mean you should guard yourself for the rest of your life. It means that you should learn from it and become stronger from what you've experienced. Foreign exchange is obviously a risk. You may hate it here in America because of how different it is, but it is certainly not because America hates you. It is a risk but one worth taking. Not to mention, this author is forcing these opinions on others. Also I may venture in saying that most general public in any country is obviously overly sensitive to media and now will base their opinions on this poorly-researched condemning book. For the record, and I hope someone of influence sees this, no: all Americans do not carry around guns and knifes (in fact many are working to make them illegal), no: we're not all rapists. Host families are intensely investigated to assure safe conditions. Of course our customs are different but this is part of the foreign experience and can lead to a well-rounded education! I know many many people with Chinese, Korean or Japanese significant others and I'm not living in some rare utopia. I'm living in a standard experience of America! All the people I know will only risk a racist joke against an Asian if they are their best friends and know them well enough to be sure that they won't be offended. The guy I had a crush on in high school was a Japanese exchange student. Asians, like any other nationality in America, are respected. Americans are grateful for their presence and the benefits they offer our society as a mature esteemed nationality. Please do not base your opinions of America on this book. A concerned American citezen To whom it may concern:
Excuse me, but as with all countries I must report that Japan is quite misinformed about America. Everyone builds up stereotypes about everyone. As over-romanticized as this is, I think the only path to world peace is through foreign exchange programs and thus the removal of this distressing stereotypes.
Any American guy who has the nerve to report that he and all American guys would take advantage of a Japanese girl coming to the States is being an egotistical idiot. All men and women have their desires but there are few that are twisted enough to act on them. I am an American girl who has lived a perfectly normal high school life in a perfectly normal American city. I have been long studying Japan and a lot of the world in hopes of my future career. I am disturbed by the prevalence of racism and stereotyping.
An American high-school or college is just like any other in the world, I would even dare say better. There are multitudes of opportunities in America, as there always has been. ANY person can climb the social ladder with the right determination. Americans are generally an accepting people, though a good many tend to be racist its usually in use as a sick shallow humor and absolutely never acted upon. In my experience, Asians are much more regarded as intriguing and respectable than as ‘monkeys’. I am frankly rather disgusted by these stereotypes.
I admit that Japan is known to be one of the safest countries out there, but America is similar. Unless you’re living in one of the low-class neighborhoods that every country has (which could never afford to accept a foreign exchange student anyway), you are definitely safe. America cherishes foreigners. They are what built us in the first place. I am not being idealistic when I encourage foreigners to come here.
This author is obviously a lady who is either basing all of her views on stereotypes or has had a bad experience in America. Bad experiences CAN happen, but just because one bad thing happens once doesn’t mean you should guard yourself for the rest of your life. It means that you should learn from it and become stronger from what you’ve experienced. Foreign exchange is obviously a risk. You may hate it here in America because of how different it is, but it is certainly not because America hates you. It is a risk but one worth taking. Not to mention, this author is forcing these opinions on others. Also I may venture in saying that most general public in any country is obviously overly sensitive to media and now will base their opinions on this poorly-researched condemning book.
For the record, and I hope someone of influence sees this, no: all Americans do not carry around guns and knifes (in fact many are working to make them illegal), no: we’re not all rapists. Host families are intensely investigated to assure safe conditions. Of course our customs are different but this is part of the foreign experience and can lead to a well-rounded education!
I know many many people with Chinese, Korean or Japanese significant others and I’m not living in some rare utopia. I’m living in a standard experience of America! All the people I know will only risk a racist joke against an Asian if they are their best friends and know them well enough to be sure that they won’t be offended. The guy I had a crush on in high school was a Japanese exchange student. Asians, like any other nationality in America, are respected. Americans are grateful for their presence and the benefits they offer our society as a mature esteemed nationality. Please do not base your opinions of America on this book.
A concerned American citezen

]]> By: fuke u http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-381348 fuke u Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:38:44 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-381348 u know wat u know nothin about americanz so fuke u we americans r better then u cauze we dont judge people we have cooler things in american! i bet u dont even know wat horses r!! u know wat u know nothin about americanz so fuke u we americans r better then u cauze we dont judge people we have cooler things in american! i bet u dont even know wat horses r!!

]]> By: ponta http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-378818 ponta Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:05:15 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-378818 The author should have put san after Joe when she put san after Toshiko. But I guess it has nothing to do with the fact that Joe was a "black" guy. We can think of various reasons. Japanese put san after the name when you show respect,the distance from him/her but sometimes drop san when you feel really close to him/her. When the Japanese translate English at school or in the movies, you don't put san after the English name. For instance, </blockquote> Play it, Sam. Play "As Time Goes By." 「弾いてサム、「時の過ぎ行くままに」を。 "Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship." 「ルイス、これが美しい友情の始まりだな。」 “You see, George, you really have had a wonderful life.” 「ジョージ、君は素晴らしい人生を歩んできたんだよ。」 "Remember what Johnny Dillinger said about guys like you and him. He said you were just rushing toward death." 「ジョン・デリンジャーがお前のような奴のことを何て言ったか憶えているか？死に急いでる奴って言ったんだ。」 http://www.geocities.co.jp/Hollywood/5710/quote.html </blockquote> Perhaps the author didn't put san after English name out of habit. That's all I can think of for now. But in the context above I am sure that the author didn't mean to degrade Joe. The author should have put san after Joe when she put san after Toshiko.
But I guess it has nothing to do with the fact that Joe was a “black” guy.
We can think of various reasons.

Japanese put san after the name when you show respect,the distance from him/her but sometimes drop san when you feel really close to him/her.
When the Japanese translate English at school or in the movies, you don’t put san after the English name. For instance,

Play it, Sam. Play “As Time Goes By.”
「弾いてサム、「時の過ぎ行くままに」を。
“Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”
「ルイス、これが美しい友情の始まりだな。」

“You see, George, you really have had a wonderful life.”
「ジョージ、君は素晴らしい人生を歩んできたんだよ。」

“Remember what Johnny Dillinger said about guys like you and him. He said you were just rushing toward death.”
「ジョン・デリンジャーがお前のような奴のことを何て言ったか憶えているか？死に急いでる奴って言ったんだ。」
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Hollywood/5710/quote.html

Perhaps the author didn’t put san after English name out of habit.

That’s all I can think of for now.

But in the context above I am sure that the author didn’t mean to degrade Joe.

]]> By: Simon http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-378811 Simon Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:57:29 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-378811 I have a copy of this book, right here in front of me. Haven't read it yet since it just arrived today, but from skimming through it, yeah, Takahashi is quite one-sided and full of bile about the States. One point that irked me was this paragraph (on page 129 for anyone looking): 「しばらくして私は同じ町に住む日本人と黒人の夫婦から招待を受けた。日本人女性はとし子さんという名前だった。ご主人は郵便配達の仕事をしているジョー。２人ともこんな良い人がいるんだろうか、というほど善人だった。とし子さんは結婚して１度も日本人に会ったことがなく、ちらし寿司やみそ汁を作って歓迎してくれた。ジョーも優しくてユーモアがあり２人は幸せそうだった。」 I know, she's describing the couple very positively and only has nice things to say. I accept that. I know she's not being negative. ...but why is yobisute acceptable for the black guy? (Not "American" guy, "black" guy. Toshiko is Toshiko-san, twice, but Joe is just Joe. No honorific. Ponta, enlighten me please...! I have a copy of this book, right here in front of me. Haven’t read it yet since it just arrived today, but from skimming through it, yeah, Takahashi is quite one-sided and full of bile about the States.

One point that irked me was this paragraph (on page 129 for anyone looking):

「しばらくして私は同じ町に住む日本人と黒人の夫婦から招待を受けた。日本人女性はとし子さんという名前だった。ご主人は郵便配達の仕事をしているジョー。２人ともこんな良い人がいるんだろうか、というほど善人だった。とし子さんは結婚して１度も日本人に会ったことがなく、ちらし寿司やみそ汁を作って歓迎してくれた。ジョーも優しくてユーモアがあり２人は幸せそうだった。」

I know, she’s describing the couple very positively and only has nice things to say. I accept that. I know she’s not being negative.

…but why is yobisute acceptable for the black guy? (Not “American” guy, “black” guy. Toshiko is Toshiko-san, twice, but Joe is just Joe. No honorific.

Ponta, enlighten me please…!

]]> By: Blog de Tsali.net » Blog Archive » Parents 10 commandments for 2008 http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-184452 Blog de Tsali.net » Blog Archive » Parents 10 commandments for 2008 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:58:34 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-184452 [...] Don’t let your children study in America [...] [...] Don’t let your children study in America [...]

]]> By: Raul http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-163889 Raul Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:30:19 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-163889 Michigan has the most correct form of English. Michigan has the most correct form of English.

]]> By: Jabberwock http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-145867 Jabberwock Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:54:11 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-145867 American #4: KAWAIII DESSSUUU!!!! (Anime Nerd) American #5: I'm very good. How about you? (Perfect Grammatical American English from an Iowa resident) It depends on where you live. In Iowa we speak perfect grammatical English, have a low cost of living, and a really low crime rate. We get tons of Japanese/Korean/Chinese exchange students here. American #4: KAWAIII DESSSUUU!!!! (Anime Nerd)

American #5: I’m very good. How about you? (Perfect Grammatical American English from an Iowa resident)

It depends on where you live. In Iowa we speak perfect grammatical English, have a low cost of living, and a really low crime rate. We get tons of Japanese/Korean/Chinese exchange students here.

]]> By: WoW http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-121048 WoW Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:32:33 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-121048 what's wrong with you people!!, you all speak like retards, what should this topic mater is a waste of time, if Japaneses cant speak English is their fucking problem dont you think,they sholdn't consider to come to America in the first place. My English is not perfect, but WTF, I speak 3 languages, if they want to be treated nice they should consider central America or south America. what’s wrong with you people!!, you all speak like retards, what should this topic mater is a waste of time, if Japaneses cant speak English is their fucking problem dont you think,they sholdn’t consider to come to America in the first place. My English is not perfect, but WTF, I speak 3 languages, if they want to be treated nice they should consider central America or south America.

]]> By: Laramb http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-120598 Laramb Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:49:35 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-120598 Oh yeah those dreadful slaves! Oh yeah those dreadful slaves!

]]> By: Brock http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-120594 Brock Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:29:48 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-120594 They just need to watch out for the NIGGERS. They just need to watch out for the NIGGERS.

]]> By: blackpassenger http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-118968 blackpassenger Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:19:27 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-118968 wicked my yout, definitely lundun style wicked my yout, definitely lundun style

]]> By: Joe Begningo http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-118944 Joe Begningo Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:21:11 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-118944 Send all of your beautiful Japanese daughters here. Every American guy deserves a nice Japanese girl. What choices do we have? Fat, self-centered and lazy that's what. Ask my mother-in-law if America is bad for Japanese girls. Send all of your beautiful Japanese daughters here. Every American guy deserves a nice Japanese girl. What choices do we have? Fat, self-centered and lazy that’s what. Ask my mother-in-law if America is bad for Japanese girls.

]]> By: pepipox http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-118171 pepipox Tue, 25 Dec 2007 10:02:55 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-118171 It is no a perfectly acceptable name. America is the whole continent of North, Central and South America. U.S People calling themselves american is as stupid as chinese calling their country "asia" It is no a perfectly acceptable name. America is the whole continent of North, Central and South America. U.S People calling themselves american is as stupid as chinese calling their country “asia”

]]> By: James Annan http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117785 James Annan Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:51:43 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117785 This comment is a perfect description of one of our friends. She returned here about the same time we arrived, and after several fairly miserable years has just got a Green Card and is back off to the states in the New Year. Of course there's no guarantee that this will revolutionise her life, but she already has a job interview for a better position over there than anything she's done here in the past few years. This comment is a perfect description of one of our friends. She returned here about the same time we arrived, and after several fairly miserable years has just got a Green Card and is back off to the states in the New Year. Of course there’s no guarantee that this will revolutionise her life, but she already has a job interview for a better position over there than anything she’s done here in the past few years.

]]> By: Burento5 http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117650 Burento5 Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:04:26 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117650 American #3 is right. Except I'd change Korea to China. American #3 is right. Except I’d change Korea to China.

]]> By: Yeah http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117323 Yeah Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:47:04 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117323 Fuck it! Fuck it all! Let's just fuck and say fuck it! Didn't John Lennon say something to that end? And look how he ended up in America, with a Japanese wife! Peace out, y'all Fuck it! Fuck it all!

Let’s just fuck and say fuck it!

Didn’t John Lennon say something to that end? And look how he ended up in America, with a Japanese wife!

Peace out, y’all

]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117188 The Overthinker Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:40:24 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117188 Ah, keitai cameras - barely worth the name, so now I see why it's so illegible. Ah, keitai cameras – barely worth the name, so now I see why it’s so illegible.

]]> By: Evan http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117186 Evan Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:38:27 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117186 sorry about that, actually, my friend took them from her ketai and sent them to me. sorry about that, actually, my friend took them from her ketai and sent them to me.

]]> By: Evan http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117185 Evan Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:35:05 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117185 this is more like an editorial, NOT a review. i did not even read the book, as i stated, so it obviously cannot be a review. this is more like an editorial, NOT a review. i did not even read the book, as i stated, so it obviously cannot be a review.

]]> By: ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 23DEC07 at ROK Drop http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117146 ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 23DEC07 at ROK Drop Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:02:16 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117146 [...] The USFK-ization of the USS Kitty Hawk has been implemented. -  Top five reasons to not let your daughter go to America. -  Here is a Christmas story involving a Japanese expat in [...] [...] The USFK-ization of the USS Kitty Hawk has been implemented. -  Top five reasons to not let your daughter go to America. -  Here is a Christmas story involving a Japanese expat in [...]

]]> By: gaijin http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117104 gaijin Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:51:34 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117104 The review published above astonishes me a little. It is the right of the author to speak about the contents of another book critically. This criticism is, however, incomplete and also blue-eyed. Why? A good criticism also asks me for my own faults. It is only little helpful to ignore one's own fault or to ignore or play down one's own weaknesses. After all, faults of one's own could be the reason for such a book. For example: The possession of firearms in the USA is object of a critical film from within the USA. Why doesn't the author mention this? So the facts are generally known. Why does he refer to his relatives instead? With his thoughts, I think that the author describes only half of the situation. He didn't had the courage (or the time) for a complete criticism. The review published above astonishes me a little.
It is the right of the author to speak about the contents of another book critically.
This criticism is, however, incomplete and also blue-eyed.
Why?
A good criticism also asks me for my own faults.
It is only little helpful to ignore one’s own fault or to ignore or play down one’s own weaknesses.
After all, faults of one’s own could be the reason for such a book.
For example:
The possession of firearms in the USA is object of a critical film from within the USA.
Why doesn’t the author mention this?
So the facts are generally known.
Why does he refer to his relatives instead?
With his thoughts, I think that the author describes only half of the situation.
He didn’t had the courage (or the time) for a complete criticism.

]]> By: David http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117050 David Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:21:52 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117050 (Totally off topic) America. It's a meaningless name based on the name of some Italian who wasn't as lucky as Columbus was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci How about asking the Hopi, Inuit, Crow, Maya, etc what we should call that large land-mass in the northern hemisphere. (Totally off topic)
America. It’s a meaningless name based on the name of some Italian who wasn’t as lucky as Columbus was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

How about asking the Hopi, Inuit, Crow, Maya, etc what we should call that large land-mass in the northern hemisphere.

]]> By: David http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-117049 David Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:15:14 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-117049 That is the most important thing about studying abroad. Yet, not everyone goes abroad to actually study and get what you, and I got out of it. I would guess that would be the same with the Japanese that go to America. Some of them want to study some want to go for fun/other reasons. Either way I was waiting to find out about a book like this, I knew it had to exist. Thanks Evan. That is the most important thing about studying abroad. Yet, not everyone goes abroad to actually study and get what you, and I got out of it. I would guess that would be the same with the Japanese that go to America. Some of them want to study some want to go for fun/other reasons.

Either way I was waiting to find out about a book like this, I knew it had to exist. Thanks Evan.

]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116984 The Overthinker Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:47:10 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116984 Points 1 to 5 are valid, though can't say much about Point 3, but you forgot Point 6 that counters them all: at the moment the US$ is being used to clean latrines with, and the Pound is so high it costs a thousand yen to ride the Tube (yeah, I know that's only the bog-standard four quid fare and there are a ton of cheaper ways, but it's still the one that the media here in Japan pointed out). Points 1 to 5 are valid, though can’t say much about Point 3, but you forgot Point 6 that counters them all: at the moment the US$ is being used to clean latrines with, and the Pound is so high it costs a thousand yen to ride the Tube (yeah, I know that’s only the bog-standard four quid fare and there are a ton of cheaper ways, but it’s still the one that the media here in Japan pointed out).

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116964 shazzb0t Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:51:11 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116964 Haha. Total doinkery going on in this book, do not read it! Haha. Haha. Total doinkery going on in this book, do not read it! Haha.

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116963 shazzb0t Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:50:14 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116963 'Hey' Thats cool man, I was just kidding about what I said. Just so you understand. :-) ‘Hey’

Thats cool man, I was just kidding about what I said. Just so you understand. :-)

]]> By: rei http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116924 rei Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:29:07 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116924 believe it or not, not every american guy is into japanese girls- especially not in high school (at least, not at high schools that don't have anime clubs ^^). ALL of the japanese girls that i know who studied abroad in high school _didn't_ find a boyfriend during their stay and so they ended up going to prom alone (including my host mother!! she is quite bitter about it, too, haha ^^;). This could be saying more about the type of japanese girl who studies abroad in high school VS the university study abroad type, though. also, this may be hard to believe for guys who are interested in asia, but i have many asian girl friends who have been turned down by (white) guys they like because the guys "weren't into asians". ;_; there are still many people who refuse to date outside their race in the world. believe it or not, not every american guy is into japanese girls- especially not in high school (at least, not at high schools that don’t have anime clubs ^^). ALL of the japanese girls that i know who studied abroad in high school _didn’t_ find a boyfriend during their stay and so they ended up going to prom alone (including my host mother!! she is quite bitter about it, too, haha ^^;).
This could be saying more about the type of japanese girl who studies abroad in high school VS the university study abroad type, though.

also, this may be hard to believe for guys who are interested in asia, but i have many asian girl friends who have been turned down by (white) guys they like because the guys “weren’t into asians”. ;_; there are still many people who refuse to date outside their race in the world.

]]> By: ponta http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116910 ponta Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:10:32 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116910 Well "kaigai" is also associated with,for instance China and Korea, Russia but the Japanase do not associate them with freedom and liberty. A travel abroad(kaigai ryokou) in general represents a bit of free time, liberated from a routine business for the Japanese. Well “kaigai” is also associated with,for instance China and Korea, Russia but the Japanase do not associate them with freedom and liberty.
A travel abroad(kaigai ryokou) in general represents a bit of free time, liberated from a routine business for the Japanese.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116898 Marcus Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:21:46 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116898 I don't think the States in particular represent "freedom and liberty" to Japanese. I think "kaigai" in general carries those associations. "Not Japan" represents freedom and liberty. I don’t think the States in particular represent “freedom and liberty” to Japanese. I think “kaigai” in general carries those associations. “Not Japan” represents freedom and liberty.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116896 Marcus Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:18:57 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116896 Uh... the "shut up" comment is not written by me... maybe time I registered or something. Uh… the “shut up” comment is not written by me… maybe time I registered or something.

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116821 shazzb0t Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:43:54 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116821 Haha, thats the way to think! Haha, thats the way to think!

]]> By: Kevin http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116809 Kevin Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:18:03 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116809 Yeah right -.- Yeah right -.-

]]> By: ponta http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116767 ponta Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:08:06 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116767 A good point. A good point.

]]> By: happy_willis http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116732 happy_willis Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:05:54 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116732 American #3: "Y'all from Jah-pan? Why, ain't that nice! And I thawt y'all were frum Koh-reah!" American #3: “Y’all from Jah-pan? Why, ain’t that nice! And I thawt y’all were frum Koh-reah!”

]]> By: Desiree http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116689 Desiree Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:59:49 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116689 Personal Experience? Not really but it happend to a friend of mine (she got pregnant from a guy that promised her heaven on earth). Personal Experience? Not really but it happend to a friend of mine (she got pregnant from a guy that promised her heaven on earth).

]]> By: MrShlat http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116681 MrShlat Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:40:52 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116681 Hey just stumbled across this while browsing this site. Just gotta say you get low life scum in all walks of life regardless of country. Although i dont understand why a book like this was written, I live in London and can understand why so many people have such a low opinion of America. I think someone should write a book entitled 5 reasons to study in England. 1) You want to learn English? Why not study it in the birthplace of the language? Of course you get street slang but most people here will polish their dialect if someone who doesnt speak english asks them about something. 2) Although this contradicts my earlier statements, most people in England are very welcoming to all walks of life. Truly a multicultural society but still get the occasional cocks. 3) Most of the crime here ( London ) seems to be gang related so if your a jap student and not keen on joining a gang then you should be alright. Furthermore the police here are very good at what they do. Thats why soo many people here hate the "fuzz" just becuase they are soo on top of most things. 4) Some of the best educational institutions in the world are located in "ol blighty". 5) Its England dude!!! EVERYONE should visit this place Hey just stumbled across this while browsing this site. Just gotta say you get low life scum in all walks of life regardless of country. Although i dont understand why a book like this was written, I live in London and can understand why so many people have such a low opinion of America. I think someone should write a book entitled 5 reasons to study in England.

1) You want to learn English? Why not study it in the birthplace of the language? Of course you get street slang but most people here will polish their dialect if someone who doesnt speak english asks them about something.

2) Although this contradicts my earlier statements, most people in England are very welcoming to all walks of life. Truly a multicultural society but still get the occasional cocks.

3) Most of the crime here ( London ) seems to be gang related so if your a jap student and not keen on joining a gang then you should be alright. Furthermore the police here are very good at what they do. Thats why soo many people here hate the “fuzz” just becuase they are soo on top of most things.

4) Some of the best educational institutions in the world are located in “ol blighty”.

5) Its England dude!!! EVERYONE should visit this place

]]> By: links for 2007-12-21 at __Sakurazuka No Maboroshi__ http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116584 links for 2007-12-21 at __Sakurazuka No Maboroshi__ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:18:30 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116584 [...] Warning! Top 5 Reasons Not to Let Your Daughter go to America : Japan Probe Comme quoi à chaque culture ses stéréotypes débiles. (tags: WTF USA Language Japan Culture) [...] [...] Warning! Top 5 Reasons Not to Let Your Daughter go to America : Japan Probe Comme quoi à chaque culture ses stéréotypes débiles. (tags: WTF USA Language Japan Culture) [...]

]]> By: ashley_glad-to-help! ^^ http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116573 ashley_glad-to-help! ^^ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:03:20 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116573 lol. Thanks for the FYI. But it does sound as such when reading the work. lol. Thanks for the FYI. But it does sound as such when reading the work.

]]> By: Karisu http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116544 Karisu Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:53:51 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116544 Umm... I don't think anyone with even an iota of intelligence actually basis their opinions on people on broad sweeping generalizations. And if they do, they're just people you need to avoid. Also, paragraphs are your friend. Umm… I don’t think anyone with even an iota of intelligence actually basis their opinions on people on broad sweeping generalizations. And if they do, they’re just people you need to avoid.

Also, paragraphs are your friend.

]]> By: Hey http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116522 Hey Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:19:37 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116522 BTW, I'm the first "...", I'm not the "..." who said "Doesn’t change the fact that you North Americans are scum!". BTW, I’m the first “…”, I’m not the “…” who said “Doesn’t change the fact that you North Americans are scum!”.

]]> By: Karisu http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116521 Karisu Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:15:29 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116521 Heh. I know you're joking, but I've never heard anyone speak like that (in person) in real life. Heh.

I know you’re joking, but I’ve never heard anyone speak like that (in person) in real life.

]]> By: ashley_glad-to-help! ^^ http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116509 ashley_glad-to-help! ^^ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:40:31 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116509 I am rather offended by the unintelligence of people displayed here. I want to become an exchange student and go to Japan, but clearly, we are considered ignorant there. Those people who said things like "Is your mother a geisha" are the fools that exist in every country. I would hate to be judged on that, for I know those things, simple as they are. The idiots who said that should not have had the opportunity to do something so honorable, if they could not even get off their butts and study the culture they were going to into. For the Japanese girls topic and crime, that is exactly what is said here. My father was hesitant on letting me become an exchange student, because crime for white blonde hair blue eyed girls is high in Japan. The same for Japanese girls here. But please, do not judge all of us for those fools in each of our countries. No stereotyping? Is that not just what happened? I was stereotyped with the ignoramus piece of crap that said vaginas are sideways. Vulgar and cruel and rude, yet I was grouped with that person. But there is not stereotyping? Also, for the misunderstandings and cultural differences, yes, you’re right. There are differences. That is the point of studying abroad, to LEARN about the differences. To preserve your own culture, but have the knowledge to understand the rest. For the boys here? You are right. Boys are perverted, no matter where you are. You just must understand this, and know that they go after the girls they think they can have. You must be have the strength to walk away and make it clear you are not interested in them that way. Girls here are lectured on that. There are good guys too, but they are the ones who do not try to get into your pants. Men everywhere can be sick and rude. American guys too. There are temptations no matter where you go. You HAVE to be strong enough to resist all negative ones: drugs, bad guys, bad people. JUST AS IN EVERY COUNTRY. Please, Americans and Japanese, please do not base your opinions on those extreme cases of each other that do not have happy endings. There will always be something in your countries past you do not like. Again, please, Americans and Japanese, please do not base your opinions on those extreme cases of each other that do not have happy endings. I am rather offended by the unintelligence of people displayed here. I want to become an exchange student and go to Japan, but clearly, we are considered ignorant there. Those people who said things like “Is your mother a geisha” are the fools that exist in every country. I would hate to be judged on that, for I know those things, simple as they are. The idiots who said that should not have had the opportunity to do something so honorable, if they could not even get off their butts and study the culture they were going to into. For the Japanese girls topic and crime, that is exactly what is said here. My father was hesitant on letting me become an exchange student, because crime for white blonde hair blue eyed girls is high in Japan. The same for Japanese girls here. But please, do not judge all of us for those fools in each of our countries. No stereotyping? Is that not just what happened? I was stereotyped with the ignoramus piece of crap that said vaginas are sideways. Vulgar and cruel and rude, yet I was grouped with that person. But there is not stereotyping? Also, for the misunderstandings and cultural differences, yes, you’re right. There are differences. That is the point of studying abroad, to LEARN about the differences. To preserve your own culture, but have the knowledge to understand the rest. For the boys here? You are right. Boys are perverted, no matter where you are. You just must understand this, and know that they go after the girls they think they can have. You must be have the strength to walk away and make it clear you are not interested in them that way. Girls here are lectured on that. There are good guys too, but they are the ones who do not try to get into your pants. Men everywhere can be sick and rude. American guys too. There are temptations no matter where you go. You HAVE to be strong enough to resist all negative ones: drugs, bad guys, bad people. JUST AS IN EVERY COUNTRY. Please, Americans and Japanese, please do not base your opinions on those extreme cases of each other that do not have happy endings. There will always be something in your countries past you do not like. Again, please, Americans and Japanese, please do not base your opinions on those extreme cases of each other that do not have happy endings.

]]> By: J-ude http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116489 J-ude Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:45:34 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116489 Your English is fine :), and it sounds like you have personal experience? There are some weirdos who are like that, unfortunately. Your English is fine :) , and it sounds like you have personal experience? There are some weirdos who are like that, unfortunately.

]]> By: willis_drummond http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116487 willis_drummond Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:39:37 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116487 quote: Worthless English– The English you learn in Japan is not “real” English and Americans will not understand you. student: "Hello. My name is Yumi. I am an exchange student from Japan. How are you?" American #1: "S'up, ho? You dissin' me? Word!" American #2: "Buenos dias, senorita!" quote: Worthless English– The English you learn in Japan is not “real” English and Americans will not understand you.

student: “Hello. My name is Yumi. I am an exchange student from Japan. How are you?”

American #1: “S’up, ho? You dissin’ me? Word!”
American #2: “Buenos dias, senorita!”

]]> By: happy_canadian http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116477 happy_canadian Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:22:51 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116477 ... and the Wiki article states two more Japanese students were shot and killed in California under analogous circumstances, and another (apparently) non-Japanese student was similarly killed in Michigan. the point is...? … and the Wiki article states two more Japanese students were shot and killed in California under analogous circumstances, and another (apparently) non-Japanese student was similarly killed in Michigan.

the point is…?

]]> By: hadji http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116474 hadji Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:16:11 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116474 Well, then this is a good chance to start learning sarcasm. Well, then this is a good chance to start learning sarcasm.

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116457 shazzb0t Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:28:08 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116457 I love Chu-cream! Say, OT, want to go get some Chu-cream with me? Haha. I love Chu-cream! Say, OT, want to go get some Chu-cream with me? Haha.

]]> By: Karisu http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116435 Karisu Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:41:44 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116435 Every English speaking country has it's own version of English. If you're looking for a country that speaks textbook English, good luck. American English is as good as any English to learn. Every English speaking country has it’s own version of English. If you’re looking for a country that speaks textbook English, good luck.

American English is as good as any English to learn.

]]> By: jb http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116431 jb Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:27:33 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116431 in my experience #6 should be; "Don't let your daughter study abroad because when she comes back she will realise Japan isn't the paradise she was brought up to believe it to be, furthermore her countrymen and women will treat her like scum for having the audacity of going and experiencing something of the rest of the world and she will be stuck in a rut of never again being accepted (or possibly wanting to be accepted!) in her "home" nation". in my experience there are a LOT of girls in this situation now, at least in Tokyo. most of them spend their time pining to escape Japan. i do think in some ways they are digging their own holes by fantasising about escaping (again) but i can't blame them because for most living abroad must be a hell of an eye-opener, a hugely significant life experience, as well as being bloody good fun, shock horror! unfortunately inflexible Japanese society is unwilling to accept them back and they are left in a kind of limbo. even worse than this, though, is those girls (as well as boys) who got their overseas experience living abroad when Papa san was transferred to the USA/UK/Europe/etc by the company in order to contribute to Japan's success during the bubble years. Now, back in Japan they are treated like dirt whereas Japan could not have become the economic powerhouse it did become without those who lived and worked (and studied) abroad *sigh* in my experience #6 should be; “Don’t let your daughter study abroad because when she comes back she will realise Japan isn’t the paradise she was brought up to believe it to be, furthermore her countrymen and women will treat her like scum for having the audacity of going and experiencing something of the rest of the world and she will be stuck in a rut of never again being accepted (or possibly wanting to be accepted!) in her “home” nation”.

in my experience there are a LOT of girls in this situation now, at least in Tokyo. most of them spend their time pining to escape Japan. i do think in some ways they are digging their own holes by fantasising about escaping (again) but i can’t blame them because for most living abroad must be a hell of an eye-opener, a hugely significant life experience, as well as being bloody good fun, shock horror! unfortunately inflexible Japanese society is unwilling to accept them back and they are left in a kind of limbo.

even worse than this, though, is those girls (as well as boys) who got their overseas experience living abroad when Papa san was transferred to the USA/UK/Europe/etc by the company in order to contribute to Japan’s success during the bubble years. Now, back in Japan they are treated like dirt whereas Japan could not have become the economic powerhouse it did become without those who lived and worked (and studied) abroad

*sigh*

]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116411 The Overthinker Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:46:46 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116411 Funny how both scum and cream float to the top.... Funny how both scum and cream float to the top….

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116407 shazzb0t Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:40:55 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116407 Already explained that and the dude continued to insist that I and other Americans were scum. Can't really do much more about the situation. I am also aware of the fact that non-native English speakers read this blog. Already explained that and the dude continued to insist that I and other Americans were scum. Can’t really do much more about the situation.

I am also aware of the fact that non-native English speakers read this blog.

]]> By: Paynegwynn http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116398 Paynegwynn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:16:27 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116398 Probably because he was in Louisiana. Nobody should ever go to the south. Not even Americans. Probably because he was in Louisiana. Nobody should ever go to the south. Not even Americans.

]]> By: The Overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116391 The Overthinker Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:05:05 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116391 As a photographer, Evan, I would have hoped you could provide better-quality images. I cannot read the one you show of the contents. Can you redo it in a bigger format? As a photographer, Evan, I would have hoped you could provide better-quality images. I cannot read the one you show of the contents. Can you redo it in a bigger format?

]]> By: happy_canadian http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116376 happy_canadian Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:14:35 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116376 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori enough said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori

enough said

]]> By: Alex http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/20/warning-top-5-reasons-not-to-let-your-daughter-go-to-america/comment-page-1/#comment-116362 Alex Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:49:45 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=3430#comment-116362 Easy blud! When me an' a couple bredrin cotch down, spittin' 'bout all the fit birds in our endz, we all using standard London dialect. Innit? Easy blud! When me an’ a couple bredrin cotch down, spittin’ ’bout all the fit birds in our endz, we all using standard London dialect. Innit?

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