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		<title>By: Mike Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so full of prejudiced crap that it is coming out of your ears.</description>
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		<title>By: Little Joy with E-2 Visa Regulation Changes &#171; It&#8217;s a Foreigner! 외국인이다!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Joy with E-2 Visa Regulation Changes &#171; It&#8217;s a Foreigner! 외국인이다!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by shootingwords on November 15, 2008  If you&#8217;re working in Korea now it&#8217;s very likely you had to go through the pain in the arse long process of gathering a criminal record check, then getting an Apostille for it, on top of getting a transcript from your university. Well according to an article in a newsletter published by the Daejeon International Community Centre, immigration have finally responded to complaints about the pointlessly bureaucratic process required to teach English in Korea by making a few small concessions. Though I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s more likely to do with the reduced numbers of teachers coming here now, once they realise it&#8217;s easier to go and teach in somewhere like Japan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by shootingwords on November 15, 2008  If you&#8217;re working in Korea now it&#8217;s very likely you had to go through the pain in the arse long process of gathering a criminal record check, then getting an Apostille for it, on top of getting a transcript from your university. Well according to an article in a newsletter published by the Daejeon International Community Centre, immigration have finally responded to complaints about the pointlessly bureaucratic process required to teach English in Korea by making a few small concessions. Though I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s more likely to do with the reduced numbers of teachers coming here now, once they realise it&#8217;s easier to go and teach in somewhere like Japan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ATS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a sad time for Korea.  Such a wonderful country, yet so totally out of touch with social science.  It&#039;s difficult to argue against a drug and criminal history check - virtually any decent job in any developed country would demand the same.  However, the time and financial restraints on renewal are simply unjustifiable and fiscally unviable (exactly how much do they think us teachers make?)  

There is an awful stigma against foreigners in South Korea.  It is true that there are many that &#039;run&#039; to Korea to escape an otherwise non-apealing life in their homelands. Concurrently, it can&#039;t be denied that there are some brilliant Westerners teaching in SK - Unfortunately, the few bad seeds seem to ruin it for all.  The frustration for me, as mentioned by others in this forum, is that as kind and as gentle as the Koreans may be, they are simply incapable of looking at themselves and correcltly self-analyse the problems within.

It is almost as if Koreans live in a constant state of denial.  Comments from native Koreans such as: Homosexuality is a Western problem, or, No Koreans are gay or have AIDS, or Koreans never abuse children, used to drive me crazy.  Particularly as they truly beleived in what they were saying - NUTS!  It&#039;s the Koreans that still beat their students with weapons for not having a hair cut, dink drive like there&#039;s no tomorrow and work their children to death with 12hour + days of never-ending study and tutoring - denying them of any real childhood.

The recent events of the Canadian moleste, have created massive set-backs in the integration of Westerners within SK. This one-off incident has set our integration back years.  I spent a year in SK in 2006, during which time I felt a great deal of descrimination and perhaps even hatered towards me for no other reason than the colour of my skin. Being quite an experienced traveller, it came as a surprise to me that SK is, in my opinion, the most racist country I have ever lived in. It is an absolute tragedy that time is proving to make things worse, not better.

Low pay, higher living expenses than other countries, substantial racism, excessive expensive and on-going administrative requirements, virtually no chance of career progression for long-term committment, shoe-boxed size accommodation and now a feeling that the SK Governmernt doesn&#039;t trust any of us - why would I teach in South Korea when there is a whole world out there with far more attractive options?

Ultimately, I just don&#039;t feel welcome in South Korea - by the Government or its people.

One thing is for certain... this policy implemented by the SK Government on foreign teachers will result in the exact opposite of what they are trying to achieve.  

There is very little attraction to hard-working, honest, qualified and experienced teachers to commit their skill-set to an un-wanting population.  English is in massive demand.  The best teachers will go to where they are treated best.  The rest will make their way to dingy, sleezy, privately and corruptly-run hogwons.

The irony is that this policy is achieving the exact opposite of its intended purpose... I wonder how long it will take (and how much their English proficiency scores drop) until they realise the sheer stupidity of these requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a sad time for Korea.  Such a wonderful country, yet so totally out of touch with social science.  It&#8217;s difficult to argue against a drug and criminal history check &#8211; virtually any decent job in any developed country would demand the same.  However, the time and financial restraints on renewal are simply unjustifiable and fiscally unviable (exactly how much do they think us teachers make?)  </p>
<p>There is an awful stigma against foreigners in South Korea.  It is true that there are many that &#8216;run&#8217; to Korea to escape an otherwise non-apealing life in their homelands. Concurrently, it can&#8217;t be denied that there are some brilliant Westerners teaching in SK &#8211; Unfortunately, the few bad seeds seem to ruin it for all.  The frustration for me, as mentioned by others in this forum, is that as kind and as gentle as the Koreans may be, they are simply incapable of looking at themselves and correcltly self-analyse the problems within.</p>
<p>It is almost as if Koreans live in a constant state of denial.  Comments from native Koreans such as: Homosexuality is a Western problem, or, No Koreans are gay or have AIDS, or Koreans never abuse children, used to drive me crazy.  Particularly as they truly beleived in what they were saying &#8211; NUTS!  It&#8217;s the Koreans that still beat their students with weapons for not having a hair cut, dink drive like there&#8217;s no tomorrow and work their children to death with 12hour + days of never-ending study and tutoring &#8211; denying them of any real childhood.</p>
<p>The recent events of the Canadian moleste, have created massive set-backs in the integration of Westerners within SK. This one-off incident has set our integration back years.  I spent a year in SK in 2006, during which time I felt a great deal of descrimination and perhaps even hatered towards me for no other reason than the colour of my skin. Being quite an experienced traveller, it came as a surprise to me that SK is, in my opinion, the most racist country I have ever lived in. It is an absolute tragedy that time is proving to make things worse, not better.</p>
<p>Low pay, higher living expenses than other countries, substantial racism, excessive expensive and on-going administrative requirements, virtually no chance of career progression for long-term committment, shoe-boxed size accommodation and now a feeling that the SK Governmernt doesn&#8217;t trust any of us &#8211; why would I teach in South Korea when there is a whole world out there with far more attractive options?</p>
<p>Ultimately, I just don&#8217;t feel welcome in South Korea &#8211; by the Government or its people.</p>
<p>One thing is for certain&#8230; this policy implemented by the SK Government on foreign teachers will result in the exact opposite of what they are trying to achieve.  </p>
<p>There is very little attraction to hard-working, honest, qualified and experienced teachers to commit their skill-set to an un-wanting population.  English is in massive demand.  The best teachers will go to where they are treated best.  The rest will make their way to dingy, sleezy, privately and corruptly-run hogwons.</p>
<p>The irony is that this policy is achieving the exact opposite of its intended purpose&#8230; I wonder how long it will take (and how much their English proficiency scores drop) until they realise the sheer stupidity of these requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How intrusive are the testings? blood and urine? Or do they do a full out hair, saliva and sweat test. Does anyone actually know?</description>
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		<title>By: niceguy57</title>
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		<dc:creator>niceguy57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it is, Korea really gets most of the recent uni grads, the drifters, the hippies, the lost and the canadians...maybe this policy will bring some better candidates into the country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it is, Korea really gets most of the recent uni grads, the drifters, the hippies, the lost and the canadians&#8230;maybe this policy will bring some better candidates into the country!</p>
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		<title>By: westsidejinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>westsidejinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These laws have gone into effect and are damaging to both Korean school children and foreign teachers. Simply put, Korean authorities do not negotiate or reason, they demand. There is a strong undercurrent of xenophobia in Korea. Nations often blame outsiders for their problems, and this seems to be the case in this instance. I think regulations need to improve in Korea, but the government went about this process in perhaps the most damaging manner possible. Many industries in the USA and Canada require background checks and drug tests. I have no problem with this. However, requiring teachers to return to their country to obtain the records, obtain a battery of blood tests and interview with the Korean embassy does seem excessive. The criminal background check (CBC) will take 3-4 weeks to obtain from the state level in the USA. A Federal, or FBI background check could take up to 18 weeks! Moreover, receiving medical checks would likely take 3-4 weeks. At this point the potential teacher is looking at 1 to 2 months of waiting for their record. Next, the applicant submits the records to the Korean school and the school submits the records to the embassy. The embassy gives the applicant a number and sets up an interview. this process should take 1 - 2 weeks. Next, the applicant has to go to a Korean embassy or consulate for the interview. If you are an applicant that lives far away from a Korean consulate, you mush pay for the travel and lodging expenses to interview. After the interview, the Korean government decides if it will give the visa or not. Can you imagine going through this process and being denied??? The process is exceedingly slow, and is not cost effective for teachers applying to Korea. I think the system is grossly unfair to sincere teachers wanting to teach in Korea. As a result I think Korea will suffer for some time to come and the illegal teaching industry and seedy hogwons will thrive as a result. The law discourages many honest people from applying. I think many teachers will go elsewhere. Korea used to be attractive because the pay is good and it was relatively easy to get a teaching visa here. Most people want to go to Japan or China because of a richer cultural experience in spite of the lower wages. Now that it is a complete hassle to teach in Korea many teachers will choose another country to teach in. Moreover, once a teacher signs a contract with a Korean school, the school owns that teacher. If you have any grievance with the school, you will have to leave the country and resubmit to this process again. There are many corrupt hogwons in Korea, and leaving a school for your sanity, safety, and personal well being in not uncommon. Teachers are now in a much weaker position and less free in Korea as a result of these laws. I like Korea, so this situation makes me sad. I don&#039;t want to leave, but may be forced to because of the economic hardships involved in obtaining a visa, and the blind luck that an applicant can find an honest hogwon. It is a treacherous proposition. It&#039;s a knee jerk government reaction.

As mentioned earlier, it is easier to point the finger at someone else. When the problems continue who will the Koreans blame? I sincerely hope they rethink and revise these laws. Sad times in Korea until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These laws have gone into effect and are damaging to both Korean school children and foreign teachers. Simply put, Korean authorities do not negotiate or reason, they demand. There is a strong undercurrent of xenophobia in Korea. Nations often blame outsiders for their problems, and this seems to be the case in this instance. I think regulations need to improve in Korea, but the government went about this process in perhaps the most damaging manner possible. Many industries in the USA and Canada require background checks and drug tests. I have no problem with this. However, requiring teachers to return to their country to obtain the records, obtain a battery of blood tests and interview with the Korean embassy does seem excessive. The criminal background check (CBC) will take 3-4 weeks to obtain from the state level in the USA. A Federal, or FBI background check could take up to 18 weeks! Moreover, receiving medical checks would likely take 3-4 weeks. At this point the potential teacher is looking at 1 to 2 months of waiting for their record. Next, the applicant submits the records to the Korean school and the school submits the records to the embassy. The embassy gives the applicant a number and sets up an interview. this process should take 1 &#8211; 2 weeks. Next, the applicant has to go to a Korean embassy or consulate for the interview. If you are an applicant that lives far away from a Korean consulate, you mush pay for the travel and lodging expenses to interview. After the interview, the Korean government decides if it will give the visa or not. Can you imagine going through this process and being denied??? The process is exceedingly slow, and is not cost effective for teachers applying to Korea. I think the system is grossly unfair to sincere teachers wanting to teach in Korea. As a result I think Korea will suffer for some time to come and the illegal teaching industry and seedy hogwons will thrive as a result. The law discourages many honest people from applying. I think many teachers will go elsewhere. Korea used to be attractive because the pay is good and it was relatively easy to get a teaching visa here. Most people want to go to Japan or China because of a richer cultural experience in spite of the lower wages. Now that it is a complete hassle to teach in Korea many teachers will choose another country to teach in. Moreover, once a teacher signs a contract with a Korean school, the school owns that teacher. If you have any grievance with the school, you will have to leave the country and resubmit to this process again. There are many corrupt hogwons in Korea, and leaving a school for your sanity, safety, and personal well being in not uncommon. Teachers are now in a much weaker position and less free in Korea as a result of these laws. I like Korea, so this situation makes me sad. I don&#8217;t want to leave, but may be forced to because of the economic hardships involved in obtaining a visa, and the blind luck that an applicant can find an honest hogwon. It is a treacherous proposition. It&#8217;s a knee jerk government reaction.</p>
<p>As mentioned earlier, it is easier to point the finger at someone else. When the problems continue who will the Koreans blame? I sincerely hope they rethink and revise these laws. Sad times in Korea until then.</p>
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		<title>By: William Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not problem with a health check, but the criminal record?  Criminal Records in not currently legal for purposes of visa (as far as I know).</description>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly:
1) 
ENGLISH TEACHER is correct about the misogyny here in Korea.  The men, from boy to married adult, are most rude, mannerless, cocky womanizing jerks.  Moreover, these thugs don&#039;t have any criminal record, I am sure, any more than their date-raping counter-parts in America do.  These people are truly dangerous.
2)
I think that the government is regulating the wrong end of the industry, here.  My first boss in Korea stole almost 4000USD from me in unpaid wages, one day simply locked the doors, and left town with his family.  I went to the labor office and have yet to see a dime. The man, a Mr. Song, also took almost 8000USD in unpaid wages from the teacher before me, and stiffed 2 Korean teachers (both female, one of them pregnant at the time!) of 2 months wages, each, and refused to pay a Chinese teacher, also female.  I guess he knew the jig was up the moment I confronted him with &quot;Where the F*&amp;# is my money?&quot; after the first month.  Word is he opened a new school north of Seoul, no problem.  Meanwhile, he did his best to ruin at least 6 other people in a year, and is apparently not worried about it at all. 
3)
I think that background checks are a ridiculous mirage of safety approved on the basis of flat out ignorance and purposeful misinformation.  Most people with so-called &quot;criminal&quot; backgrounds have been victimized by the American &quot;war on drugs&quot; mostly for possessing what the science tells us all are relatively harmless recreational substances.  The fact is that alcohol is the only drug to kill brain cells, and that tobacco is the only smoked drug that causes higher incidence of lung (and other ) cancers.  Marijuana, for example, actually slows the growth of cancers in laboratory tests, and marijuana users have the same incidence of cancers as do non-users.  The British medical community last year published a list of all drugs in the world in order of their danger.  Ecstacy was at the top of the list as the LEAST dangerous drug, followed closely by LSD, and further down marijuana.  Alcohol and tobacco were way down the list, known poisons, yet perfectly legal under western law.  What does a background check amount to, anyways?  A note to anyone with past that they cannot, and will not, ever work again?  Why?  In my mind, I would rather have a pot-smoker with a &quot;criminal&quot; record teaching my kids than a cigarette smoking alcoholic.  But, then again, I am only a Clinical Chemist with a PhD; I guess these issues are best left to bureaucrat misogynists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly:<br />
1)<br />
ENGLISH TEACHER is correct about the misogyny here in Korea.  The men, from boy to married adult, are most rude, mannerless, cocky womanizing jerks.  Moreover, these thugs don&#8217;t have any criminal record, I am sure, any more than their date-raping counter-parts in America do.  These people are truly dangerous.<br />
2)<br />
I think that the government is regulating the wrong end of the industry, here.  My first boss in Korea stole almost 4000USD from me in unpaid wages, one day simply locked the doors, and left town with his family.  I went to the labor office and have yet to see a dime. The man, a Mr. Song, also took almost 8000USD in unpaid wages from the teacher before me, and stiffed 2 Korean teachers (both female, one of them pregnant at the time!) of 2 months wages, each, and refused to pay a Chinese teacher, also female.  I guess he knew the jig was up the moment I confronted him with &#8220;Where the F*&amp;# is my money?&#8221; after the first month.  Word is he opened a new school north of Seoul, no problem.  Meanwhile, he did his best to ruin at least 6 other people in a year, and is apparently not worried about it at all.<br />
3)<br />
I think that background checks are a ridiculous mirage of safety approved on the basis of flat out ignorance and purposeful misinformation.  Most people with so-called &#8220;criminal&#8221; backgrounds have been victimized by the American &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; mostly for possessing what the science tells us all are relatively harmless recreational substances.  The fact is that alcohol is the only drug to kill brain cells, and that tobacco is the only smoked drug that causes higher incidence of lung (and other ) cancers.  Marijuana, for example, actually slows the growth of cancers in laboratory tests, and marijuana users have the same incidence of cancers as do non-users.  The British medical community last year published a list of all drugs in the world in order of their danger.  Ecstacy was at the top of the list as the LEAST dangerous drug, followed closely by LSD, and further down marijuana.  Alcohol and tobacco were way down the list, known poisons, yet perfectly legal under western law.  What does a background check amount to, anyways?  A note to anyone with past that they cannot, and will not, ever work again?  Why?  In my mind, I would rather have a pot-smoker with a &#8220;criminal&#8221; record teaching my kids than a cigarette smoking alcoholic.  But, then again, I am only a Clinical Chemist with a PhD; I guess these issues are best left to bureaucrat misogynists.</p>
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		<title>By: English Teaching Visa Procedures in Korea Now Require &#8230; &#183; Teach English In Asia - TEFL &#38; ESL Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>English Teaching Visa Procedures in Korea Now Require &#8230; &#183; Teach English In Asia - TEFL &#38; ESL Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: English teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>English teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me laugh. Korean people should try and tackle the problems in their own country with there own people.
For example
1)Korean has the the HUGEST SEX INDUSTRY of any country I have ever been to and I have been to over 20 countries. Everywhere you go you can see Business clubs etc (this is Korean for hostess bar where there is a possibility to have sex with the girls for extra money.
2) My friend who was sleeping on my floor was MOLESTED AND NEARLY RAPED by a Korean man who climbed through the window. Luckily I woke up and got help. The police were useless. My school said we must not tell the students. I think we have a moral obligation to warn they is a rapist is on the loose.
3) I was MOLESTED by a Korean man who was my landlord when I agreed to get his car and go for a walk.
4) I was MOLESTED again by another Korean man who helped me the the street with heavy bags and carried them to my hotel room.
5) In ordinary Korean nightclubs they have DANCERS IN THEIR UNDERWEAR.
6) My Korean friend (who I must add is a kind guy with good morals) says many of his married workmates PAY FOR SEX WITH WOMEN.
AND THEY SAY THE PROBLEM IS THE FOREIGNERS! 
I have nothing again Korea and have many good things to say about Korean but I have to say there is a twisted attitute to sex that for the safety of all women and children needs to be seriously tackled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me laugh. Korean people should try and tackle the problems in their own country with there own people.<br />
For example<br />
1)Korean has the the HUGEST SEX INDUSTRY of any country I have ever been to and I have been to over 20 countries. Everywhere you go you can see Business clubs etc (this is Korean for hostess bar where there is a possibility to have sex with the girls for extra money.<br />
2) My friend who was sleeping on my floor was MOLESTED AND NEARLY RAPED by a Korean man who climbed through the window. Luckily I woke up and got help. The police were useless. My school said we must not tell the students. I think we have a moral obligation to warn they is a rapist is on the loose.<br />
3) I was MOLESTED by a Korean man who was my landlord when I agreed to get his car and go for a walk.<br />
4) I was MOLESTED again by another Korean man who helped me the the street with heavy bags and carried them to my hotel room.<br />
5) In ordinary Korean nightclubs they have DANCERS IN THEIR UNDERWEAR.<br />
6) My Korean friend (who I must add is a kind guy with good morals) says many of his married workmates PAY FOR SEX WITH WOMEN.<br />
AND THEY SAY THE PROBLEM IS THE FOREIGNERS!<br />
I have nothing again Korea and have many good things to say about Korean but I have to say there is a twisted attitute to sex that for the safety of all women and children needs to be seriously tackled.</p>
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		<title>By: Isa</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109868</link>
		<dc:creator>Isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
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		<title>By: The Overthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Overthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I think I&#039;m an &quot;etc&quot; - better call the cops. 

Seriously, this is quite the amazing collection you have put together. The fact that you equate all these and call them all bad examples says more than enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I think I&#8217;m an &#8220;etc&#8221; &#8211; better call the cops. </p>
<p>Seriously, this is quite the amazing collection you have put together. The fact that you equate all these and call them all bad examples says more than enough.</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109855</link>
		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fact 1: AIDS carrier, bad example.

fact 2: drunk addict, bad example.

fact 3: womanizer, bad example.

fact 4: homos, bad example.

fact 5: pedophiles, bad example.

fact 6: porn actors/actresses, bad example.

fact 7: etc, bad example.

All these things disqualifies them and makes them have no right to be teachers of any sort especially to children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fact 1: AIDS carrier, bad example.</p>
<p>fact 2: drunk addict, bad example.</p>
<p>fact 3: womanizer, bad example.</p>
<p>fact 4: homos, bad example.</p>
<p>fact 5: pedophiles, bad example.</p>
<p>fact 6: porn actors/actresses, bad example.</p>
<p>fact 7: etc, bad example.</p>
<p>All these things disqualifies them and makes them have no right to be teachers of any sort especially to children.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109700</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, guess you weren&#039;t being &quot;subtle&quot; enough. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, guess you weren&#8217;t being &#8220;subtle&#8221; enough. <img src='http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: William G</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109692</link>
		<dc:creator>William G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what these jerks have been doing in Korea&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Teaching kids and being gainfully employed?!?!

Scandalous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what these jerks have been doing in Korea</p></blockquote>
<p>Teaching kids and being gainfully employed?!?!</p>
<p>Scandalous!</p>
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		<title>By: ran</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109658</link>
		<dc:creator>ran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To apply for a US travel VISA you must fill a form where it ask if you have AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To apply for a US travel VISA you must fill a form where it ask if you have AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: kay</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109622</link>
		<dc:creator>kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this new policy wouldn&#039;t be so bad, if everything done, from an hiv test to background check could be performed in korea.  

perhaps some kind of service or package needs to be created by private enterprise or korean government to facilitate the process. 

drug tests and criminal background checks... are normal for obtaining any kind of employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this new policy wouldn&#8217;t be so bad, if everything done, from an hiv test to background check could be performed in korea.  </p>
<p>perhaps some kind of service or package needs to be created by private enterprise or korean government to facilitate the process. </p>
<p>drug tests and criminal background checks&#8230; are normal for obtaining any kind of employment.</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109562</link>
		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to stop hearing excuses from subtle foreigners with their schemes to deviate the law. This system is a measure to prevent to what has happening and what these jerks have been doing in Korea. Guess it was time already. Expect it became a haven or refuge for criminals? Never.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to stop hearing excuses from subtle foreigners with their schemes to deviate the law. This system is a measure to prevent to what has happening and what these jerks have been doing in Korea. Guess it was time already. Expect it became a haven or refuge for criminals? Never.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109547</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like a lot of &quot;Foreigners in Korea&quot; news is swept under the rug in the international media, at least compared to Japan.

Not only are the entry restrictions becoming tougher than what everyone is bitching about in Japan, they also eat whale here, and no one seems to care.  I don&#039;t even care that they eat whale in Japan, but if the international media is going to denigrate a country for doing something, they should at least apply the same pressure on all countries equally, which really just goes to show how bashing on Japan is a trend at the moment.  (Even the Canadians are jumping on the band wagon!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like a lot of &#8220;Foreigners in Korea&#8221; news is swept under the rug in the international media, at least compared to Japan.</p>
<p>Not only are the entry restrictions becoming tougher than what everyone is bitching about in Japan, they also eat whale here, and no one seems to care.  I don&#8217;t even care that they eat whale in Japan, but if the international media is going to denigrate a country for doing something, they should at least apply the same pressure on all countries equally, which really just goes to show how bashing on Japan is a trend at the moment.  (Even the Canadians are jumping on the band wagon!)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109495</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest, I really don&#039;t see this actually happening or being enforced by many.  I think the government is just really seeing how far they can push the button before the shit hits the fan, although I&#039;m all for drug and HIV tests, which should be allowed to be done locally for those already there.  I&#039;ll be interested to see when it actually does come into full effect :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest, I really don&#8217;t see this actually happening or being enforced by many.  I think the government is just really seeing how far they can push the button before the shit hits the fan, although I&#8217;m all for drug and HIV tests, which should be allowed to be done locally for those already there.  I&#8217;ll be interested to see when it actually does come into full effect <img src='http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: William G</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109481</link>
		<dc:creator>William G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of this is partially embarrassment from the Christopher Neil case, since he was working here when Interpol released his pictures. It&#039;s also partially election time posturing. Getting tough on the foreigners always gets votes no matter where you are.

Thing is, these rules will &lt;strong&gt;only&lt;/strong&gt; apply to E2 (ESL teacher) visa holders. All other visas that may put people in teaching positions, or around kids (spousal visas, for example) are exempt from these requirements.

I guess the idea is that anyone who&#039;s teaching business English at Samsung, married to a Korean and working in a university, or has Korean parents, and someone working at an international school... None of these people could never ever have smoked a joint.

IMPOSSIBLE! 

Anyway, after six years, I&#039;m leaving Korea because I&#039;m unwilling to spend what will amount to a couple of months salary to fly home and get all of this done, with all of the government stamps they want on top of it to ensure that none of it was faked, just so I can work in the same place. 

I&#039;m not alone in this feeling.

Japan, China, and Taiwan are going to see a glut of EFL teachers in 2008. I guess this is the undertow of the Korean wave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of this is partially embarrassment from the Christopher Neil case, since he was working here when Interpol released his pictures. It&#8217;s also partially election time posturing. Getting tough on the foreigners always gets votes no matter where you are.</p>
<p>Thing is, these rules will <strong>only</strong> apply to E2 (ESL teacher) visa holders. All other visas that may put people in teaching positions, or around kids (spousal visas, for example) are exempt from these requirements.</p>
<p>I guess the idea is that anyone who&#8217;s teaching business English at Samsung, married to a Korean and working in a university, or has Korean parents, and someone working at an international school&#8230; None of these people could never ever have smoked a joint.</p>
<p>IMPOSSIBLE! </p>
<p>Anyway, after six years, I&#8217;m leaving Korea because I&#8217;m unwilling to spend what will amount to a couple of months salary to fly home and get all of this done, with all of the government stamps they want on top of it to ensure that none of it was faked, just so I can work in the same place. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not alone in this feeling.</p>
<p>Japan, China, and Taiwan are going to see a glut of EFL teachers in 2008. I guess this is the undertow of the Korean wave?</p>
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		<title>By: 404error</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109464</link>
		<dc:creator>404error</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>next they will say only sterile teachers can go to korea so no foreign korean breeding may happen -.-

they are digging their own grave with those stupid&quot;laws&quot;
when no foreign teacher will be there they will see what this law brings them ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>next they will say only sterile teachers can go to korea so no foreign korean breeding may happen -.-</p>
<p>they are digging their own grave with those stupid&#8221;laws&#8221;<br />
when no foreign teacher will be there they will see what this law brings them ..</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Saying that testing for things like HIV is needed for people who teach children is rife for attack. It is a huge violation of human rights and basically tells people with HIV that they can&#039;t do a certain job simply   because of their condition. I thought we were working away from this. This new law is going to be gobbled up by human rights groups/HIV rights activists harder than you could ever imagine. It is down right sickening. I&#039;m going to guarantee that there are some fantastic HIV positive teachers out in the world that could teach the Koreans a thing or two about living an honest, rewarding life by being true to yourself and others around you.

The mere fact that foreigners are required to take these tests says one thing to all Korean citizens, &quot;All foreigners have AIDS and are criminals.&quot; I thought we were developing away from this ridiculous stigma but I guess the Koreans and their government with it&#039;s little man stigma are simply taking steps backwards into a world of insular addiction. Have fun!

Disclaimer: I have worked in Korea for a year....... and I know what it can be like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Saying that testing for things like HIV is needed for people who teach children is rife for attack. It is a huge violation of human rights and basically tells people with HIV that they can&#8217;t do a certain job simply   because of their condition. I thought we were working away from this. This new law is going to be gobbled up by human rights groups/HIV rights activists harder than you could ever imagine. It is down right sickening. I&#8217;m going to guarantee that there are some fantastic HIV positive teachers out in the world that could teach the Koreans a thing or two about living an honest, rewarding life by being true to yourself and others around you.</p>
<p>The mere fact that foreigners are required to take these tests says one thing to all Korean citizens, &#8220;All foreigners have AIDS and are criminals.&#8221; I thought we were developing away from this ridiculous stigma but I guess the Koreans and their government with it&#8217;s little man stigma are simply taking steps backwards into a world of insular addiction. Have fun!</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I have worked in Korea for a year&#8230;&#8230;. and I know what it can be like.</p>
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		<title>By: shazzb0t</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109402</link>
		<dc:creator>shazzb0t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, I hope they don&#039;t find out about those bong tokes I did in college. Man... did I get fucked up.. /sarcasm. Hehehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, I hope they don&#8217;t find out about those bong tokes I did in college. Man&#8230; did I get fucked up.. /sarcasm. Hehehe.</p>
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		<title>By: shazzb0t</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109401</link>
		<dc:creator>shazzb0t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the that people want to keep their children safe, but you have to be fair. This is not fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the that people want to keep their children safe, but you have to be fair. This is not fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109385</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that anyone working with children needs to have their backgrounds checked out more thoroughly, but the simple fact that they are implementing this procedure retroactively is a joke.
To suddenly ask a large group of people to provide a criminal check, check-up, etc. is unreasonable and illogical.  I&#039;ve never committed a crime in my life but if I was suddenly asked to provide a criminal record and a medical check-up I would quit and go home.  If they don&#039;t trust me, then then don&#039;t need me teaching there.  I personally hope the whole industry collapses based on this policy.  When English scores start dropping the government will have no one to blame but themselves.
I don&#039;t even live or work in Korea but I find this disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that anyone working with children needs to have their backgrounds checked out more thoroughly, but the simple fact that they are implementing this procedure retroactively is a joke.<br />
To suddenly ask a large group of people to provide a criminal check, check-up, etc. is unreasonable and illogical.  I&#8217;ve never committed a crime in my life but if I was suddenly asked to provide a criminal record and a medical check-up I would quit and go home.  If they don&#8217;t trust me, then then don&#8217;t need me teaching there.  I personally hope the whole industry collapses based on this policy.  When English scores start dropping the government will have no one to blame but themselves.<br />
I don&#8217;t even live or work in Korea but I find this disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109370</link>
		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does it mean that french teach wont have to do all this shit ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does it mean that french teach wont have to do all this shit ?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/12/03/english-teaching-visa-procedures-in-korea-now-require-fingerprinting-drug-test-hiv-test/comment-page-1/#comment-109359</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought about it, but I figured the &quot;a great way to protect South Korea from criminals and disease&quot; was an endorsement of the system, so it could be interpreted as support of using similar methods in other countries as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought about it, but I figured the &#8220;a great way to protect South Korea from criminals and disease&#8221; was an endorsement of the system, so it could be interpreted as support of using similar methods in other countries as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I think that for people dealing with children (e.g., teachers), a criminal background check is necessary under any situation. As is drug and infectious disease testing.

If they required this for &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; wanting a visa, that might be unreasonable.

However, I feel that it would be irresponsible for people hiring teachers &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to do a proper background/drug test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I think that for people dealing with children (e.g., teachers), a criminal background check is necessary under any situation. As is drug and infectious disease testing.</p>
<p>If they required this for <i>everyone</i> wanting a visa, that might be unreasonable.</p>
<p>However, I feel that it would be irresponsible for people hiring teachers <i>not</i> to do a proper background/drug test.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Y-N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Y-N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I think your poll needs a &quot;Ought to be introduced in Japan&quot; option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I think your poll needs a &#8220;Ought to be introduced in Japan&#8221; option.</p>
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