Comments on: Tokugawa Descendant Marries Vietnamese Woman http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/ Japan News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: luna http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-393024 luna Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:01:29 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-393024 and they are inbred and they are inbred

]]> By: Nobody http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-138808 Nobody Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:49:42 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-138808 Well I am Vietnamese myself and I know that we are usually hardworking (I always overdo things and try not to be mean!!! >_<) but I always thought that a big industrial country like Japan would not even know the we existed! I always considered myself unworthy to these type of countries because we have a bad history and still trying to rebuild... Well this made me feel better.... Well I am Vietnamese myself and I know that we are usually hardworking (I always overdo things and try not to be mean!!! >_<) but I always thought that a big industrial country like Japan would not even know the we existed! I always considered myself unworthy to these type of countries because we have a bad history and still trying to rebuild… Well this made me feel better….

]]> By: Quynh http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-89428 Quynh Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:41:24 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-89428 Who says the Japanese didn't do "great harm" in Vietnam? They came in and stuck their finger in the cake batter like every other country that wanted to colonize Vietnam. Who says the Japanese didn’t do “great harm” in Vietnam? They came in and stuck their finger in the cake batter like every other country that wanted to colonize Vietnam.

]]> By: j2 http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83618 j2 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:19:12 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83618 Good choice, Vietnamese women are prettier on average than Japanese (IMO!!), and aren't always as insistent on handling the family income. Anyway, I don't think this news will surprise too many people, Japanese + Vietnamese/Cambodian marriage is getting pretty common. Good choice, Vietnamese women are prettier on average than Japanese (IMO!!), and aren’t always as insistent on handling the family income. Anyway, I don’t think this news will surprise too many people, Japanese + Vietnamese/Cambodian marriage is getting pretty common.

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83388 shazzb0t Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:22:38 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83388 I wasn't being disingenuous at all. I really meant 'good for him' in the sense that it shouldn't matter what other people (family included) think when it comes to who you love. I wasn’t being disingenuous at all. I really meant ‘good for him’ in the sense that it shouldn’t matter what other people (family included) think when it comes to who you love.

]]> By: annie http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83239 annie Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:03:11 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83239 Vietnamese people admired the Japanese people very much because of their accomplishments. Also, Japan did not cause great harm to Vietnam (okay, Japanese stayed in Vietnam for 5 years pre-Vietnam War but that's nothing compared to the Chinese) like other East Asian countries. Hope them all the best. Vietnamese people admired the Japanese people very much because of their accomplishments. Also, Japan did not cause great harm to Vietnam (okay, Japanese stayed in Vietnam for 5 years pre-Vietnam War but that’s nothing compared to the Chinese) like other East Asian countries.

Hope them all the best.

]]> By: ... http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83226 ... Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:33:30 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83226 Only for viets or foreigners with interests? Only for viets or foreigners with interests?

]]> By: sod http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83145 sod Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:31:27 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83145 ha you just have to look at the royal family on britain to realize how screwed up things can get as the current head of the family has more to do with germany than british! ha you just have to look at the royal family on britain to realize how screwed up things can get as the current head of the family has more to do with germany than british!

]]> By: the overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-/#comment-83130 the overthinker Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:18:55 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83130 Nice for whom? Nice for whom?

]]> By: Aki http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83114 Aki Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:43:04 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83114 I think majority of Japanese have good feeling to the Vietnamese people. They are faithful hardworking people. They are selfconfident enough that they do not eternally demand apology and reparation to other countries. In addition Japanese love Aozai! I think majority of Japanese have good feeling to the Vietnamese people. They are faithful hardworking people. They are selfconfident enough that they do not eternally demand apology and reparation to other countries. In addition Japanese love Aozai!

]]> By: the overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83093 the overthinker Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:35:28 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83093 Cool. Genealogy can indeed get tricky. If you want to get even more annoyingly anal, there are some nine generations from Ieyasu to Yoshinobu, but Yoshinobu was the fifteenth head, so Iehiro is probably only the 12th generation (19th head, 12th generation), but I'll shut up now before you kick me off the board.... (^_^) Cool. Genealogy can indeed get tricky. If you want to get even more annoyingly anal, there are some nine generations from Ieyasu to Yoshinobu, but Yoshinobu was the fifteenth head, so Iehiro is probably only the 12th generation (19th head, 12th generation), but I’ll shut up now before you kick me off the board…. (^_^)

]]> By: Jonathan (of the Japan Journal) http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83075 Jonathan (of the Japan Journal) Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:55:17 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83075 That's just what I thought, too. That’s just what I thought, too.

]]> By: James http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83074 James Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:53:55 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83074 Thanks for clearing it up: I've corrected the description . Thanks for clearing it up: I’ve corrected the description .

]]> By: the overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83073 the overthinker Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:49:57 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83073 You sure about the "direct male descendent" bit? The Tokugawa line ran out of direct heirs a few times in its history, leaving them to bring in heirs from the other Three Families (go-sanke: 御三家), and sometimes the heir was a brother or a cousin rather than a son. The last Shogun, Yoshinobu, for example, was from the Mito Tokugawa house, adopted from the Hitotsubashi family. This "Nineteenth Head" presumably refers to the 'official' head of the family rather than Ieyasu's nineteenth direct bloodline generation (which probably does exist, through his other children and grandchildren who did not inherit the Shogunate). Last I heard, the Tokugawa head was working in a shipping company, so presumably this is him. Actually, looking up Wikipedia, it might be this guy: Tokugawa Iehiro. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%B3%E5%B7%9D%E5%AE%B6%E5%BA%83 According to that, he's a translator, born 1965, and worked for a while in Vietnam (and isn't the head yet, as his father is still alive). A descendent of Ieyasu, probably, but like the Emperors, or the Kings and Queens of England, descended through rather a wiggly line.... You sure about the “direct male descendent” bit? The Tokugawa line ran out of direct heirs a few times in its history, leaving them to bring in heirs from the other Three Families (go-sanke: 御三家), and sometimes the heir was a brother or a cousin rather than a son. The last Shogun, Yoshinobu, for example, was from the Mito Tokugawa house, adopted from the Hitotsubashi family. This “Nineteenth Head” presumably refers to the ‘official’ head of the family rather than Ieyasu’s nineteenth direct bloodline generation (which probably does exist, through his other children and grandchildren who did not inherit the Shogunate). Last I heard, the Tokugawa head was working in a shipping company, so presumably this is him.

Actually, looking up Wikipedia, it might be this guy: Tokugawa Iehiro.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%B3%E5%B7%9D%E5%AE%B6%E5%BA%83
According to that, he’s a translator, born 1965, and worked for a while in Vietnam (and isn’t the head yet, as his father is still alive). A descendent of Ieyasu, probably, but like the Emperors, or the Kings and Queens of England, descended through rather a wiggly line….

]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83066 shazzb0t Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:24:36 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83066 Good for him.. Good for him..

]]> By: Turner http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/14/tokugawa-descendant-to-marry-vietnamese-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-83065 Turner Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:23:28 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2722#comment-83065 Yes, that certainly would disqualify the child from becoming Shogun. Yes, that certainly would disqualify the child from becoming Shogun.

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