Comments on: Greenpeace Fights Whaling With Anime http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/ Japan News Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:00:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: roubai http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-89469 roubai Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:56:42 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-89469 If only they'd bothered to get the details correct...such as which way a kimono laps. :/ If only they’d bothered to get the details correct…such as which way a kimono laps. :/

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]]> By: Australian Anti-Whaling Video “Aimed at Japanese Children” : Japan Probe http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-89066 Australian Anti-Whaling Video “Aimed at Japanese Children” : Japan Probe Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:45:54 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-89066 [...] Over 90% of the video is Mr. Turnbull droning on about whaling policy and the video is lacking attention-getting visuals or music. The article isn’t clear about what age group of children this video is aimed towards, but the fact that they have chosen to subtitle the video instead of dubbing it over in Japanese pretty much assures that most children will quickly lose interest in this video. If they really wanted to make an appealing video, they would have been a lot better off with something like the Greenpeace anime commercial. [...] [...] Over 90% of the video is Mr. Turnbull droning on about whaling policy and the video is lacking attention-getting visuals or music. The article isn’t clear about what age group of children this video is aimed towards, but the fact that they have chosen to subtitle the video instead of dubbing it over in Japanese pretty much assures that most children will quickly lose interest in this video. If they really wanted to make an appealing video, they would have been a lot better off with something like the Greenpeace anime commercial. [...]

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]]> By: The Unseen One http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-83025 The Unseen One Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:03:13 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-83025 Orcas have been bred in captivity, so no, it is not impossible. Orcas have been bred in captivity, so no, it is not impossible.

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]]> By: Sish http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82974 Sish Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:21:54 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82974 -<em>My comment was deleted because I cared so much about saving the whales that I didn't bother to read the discussion policy for this site and see that name-calling is not allowed</em>.- -My comment was deleted because I cared so much about saving the whales that I didn’t bother to read the discussion policy for this site and see that name-calling is not allowed.-

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]]> By: links for 2007-09-13 | Samurai Soapbox http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82898 links for 2007-09-13 | Samurai Soapbox Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:18:55 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82898 [...] Greenpeace Fights Whaling With Anime : Japan Probe Related Postslinks for 2007-09-01Trackback Tuesdaylinks for 2007-09-02links for 2007-08-31links for 2007-09-03 Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...] [...] Greenpeace Fights Whaling With Anime : Japan Probe Related Postslinks for 2007-09-01Trackback Tuesdaylinks for 2007-09-02links for 2007-08-31links for 2007-09-03 Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

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]]> By: Joseph K http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82875 Joseph K Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:38:53 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82875 Why is the catch copy at the end only in English...? It was quite a nice positivist look at things for once, though. And yes, it's still a debatable issue. As I understand it, to some extent, enough damage has already been done to the rarer species, that lesser species could see population explosions without whaling now, leading to increased competition for those rarer species and just as high a likelihood of extinction. Part of the problem also lies with Japanese whalers never seeming to stick to the rules they set out, or blatant lies in regards the quantity needed for "scientific research". And if you think about the definition of farming a bit more liberally, tracking migration and population levels with the intention of use as a food source <i>is</i> farming whales. Why is the catch copy at the end only in English…?

It was quite a nice positivist look at things for once, though.

And yes, it’s still a debatable issue. As I understand it, to some extent, enough damage has already been done to the rarer species, that lesser species could see population explosions without whaling now, leading to increased competition for those rarer species and just as high a likelihood of extinction. Part of the problem also lies with Japanese whalers never seeming to stick to the rules they set out, or blatant lies in regards the quantity needed for “scientific research”.
And if you think about the definition of farming a bit more liberally, tracking migration and population levels with the intention of use as a food source is farming whales.

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]]> By: Joe blow http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82866 Joe blow Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:07:31 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82866 No better way to do it anime crazed country, in a language they can understand...ANIME. I thought it was brilliant. No better way to do it anime crazed country, in a language they can understand…ANIME. I thought it was brilliant.

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]]> By: The Unseen One http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82828 The Unseen One Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:54:34 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82828 > Its obviously not possible to farm a 50-200 > tonne animal that eats 2,000-8,000 pounds > of food per day…depending on the species. Not impossible, but not cost effective. > Its obviously not possible to farm a 50-200
> tonne animal that eats 2,000-8,000 pounds
> of food per day…depending on the species.

Not impossible, but not cost effective.

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]]> By: shazzb0t http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82823 shazzb0t Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:38:54 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82823 I thought it was going to be manipulative, but I thought that it was well thoughtout and culturally sensitive. I think it is very important to discuss whaling's origins in Japan in order to understand today's whaling by Japan. As I understand the situation though, Japan is NOT whaling endangered species and is whaling within limits that will not harm whale population i.e. they are not overwhaling. I think it is debatable issue. My personal opinion is anti-whaling though I have had whale meat in Japan. It isn't my cup of tea. I thought it was going to be manipulative, but I thought that it was well thoughtout and culturally sensitive. I think it is very important to discuss whaling’s origins in Japan in order to understand today’s whaling by Japan.

As I understand the situation though, Japan is NOT whaling endangered species and is whaling within limits that will not harm whale population i.e. they are not overwhaling. I think it is debatable issue. My personal opinion is anti-whaling though I have had whale meat in Japan. It isn’t my cup of tea.

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]]> By: Ugh http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82796 Ugh Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:25:01 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82796 I don't like Greenpeace either by the way. I find many of their their methods appalling, but I won't let that cloud my judgment of what I believe is right/wrong/necessary. I don’t like Greenpeace either by the way. I find many of their their methods appalling, but I won’t let that cloud my judgment of what I believe is right/wrong/necessary.

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]]> By: Ugh http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82795 Ugh Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:18:57 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82795 Its obviously not possible to farm a 50-200 tonne animal that eats 2,000-8,000 pounds of food per day...depending on the species. The cost to raise one whale to maturity (even the smaller species) is monumental considering its living requirements. Where would you keep the farm? It would have to be in the ocean, but one would have to own a size of the ocean that is much larger than any country does and it would have to be in the deep sea (as opposed to the shoreline). The fact of the matter is that the only way to prevent extinction for the time being, is indeed, an all out ban. Perhaps in 100-200 years after the whale population has normalized and has reached "least concern of extinction" status then we can finally begin to have government regulated (in a global sense) whaling again. Its obviously not possible to farm a 50-200 tonne animal that eats 2,000-8,000 pounds of food per day…depending on the species.

The cost to raise one whale to maturity (even the smaller species) is monumental considering its living requirements.
Where would you keep the farm? It would have to be in the ocean, but one would have to own a size of the ocean that is much larger than any country does and it would have to be in the deep sea (as opposed to the shoreline).

The fact of the matter is that the only way to prevent extinction for the time being, is indeed, an all out ban. Perhaps in 100-200 years after the whale population has normalized and has reached “least concern of extinction” status then we can finally begin to have government regulated (in a global sense) whaling again.

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]]> By: Evan http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82790 Evan Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:06:08 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82790 yeah, good ad. i wonder if it will have any impact. is it being shown on TV? the unseen one, farming is such a stupid idea i dont know where to begin. the animals are so big, their life cycle so long, the resources necessary to produce 1kg of flesh... aquaculture in general is very inefficient. every kilogram of industrially produced marine product usually requires another 10fold of wild catch. then you are also using more energy inputs to get the same amount of food. sustainable harvesting of wild resources is the best way to go for marine resources. keep natural ecosystems more or less intact, and also benefit from taking some cream off the top. we can have our cake and eat it, so to speak. (btw. i dont think there are enough whales in the southern oceans to even consider harvesting them) yeah, good ad. i wonder if it will have any impact. is it being shown on TV?

the unseen one,

farming is such a stupid idea i dont know where to begin. the animals are so big, their life cycle so long, the resources necessary to produce 1kg of flesh… aquaculture in general is very inefficient. every kilogram of industrially produced marine product usually requires another 10fold of wild catch. then you are also using more energy inputs to get the same amount of food.

sustainable harvesting of wild resources is the best way to go for marine resources. keep natural ecosystems more or less intact, and also benefit from taking some cream off the top. we can have our cake and eat it, so to speak. (btw. i dont think there are enough whales in the southern oceans to even consider harvesting them)

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]]> By: The Unseen One http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82775 The Unseen One Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:48:33 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82775 Just because I'm not in favor of an all-out ban doesn't mean I think they should be hunted to extinction. In fact, it would be great if someone could figure out a way to farm them. After all, it's not like the chicken is endangered. Just because I’m not in favor of an all-out ban doesn’t mean I think they should be hunted to extinction. In fact, it would be great if someone could figure out a way to farm them. After all, it’s not like the chicken is endangered.

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]]> By: VonSkippy http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82750 VonSkippy Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:48:14 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82750 ZZZzzzzzz. No robots or cartoon boobies - why would anyone watch this? ZZZzzzzzz.

No robots or cartoon boobies – why would anyone watch this?

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]]> By: Ugh http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82749 Ugh Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:48:02 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82749 You agree with whaling? You are going to eat them right into extinction. 5 whale species are endangered. You agree with whaling?

You are going to eat them right into extinction. 5 whale species are endangered.

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]]> By: The Unseen One http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82742 The Unseen One Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:08:38 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82742 Excellent animation and an engaging short story. I have to appreciate how well done it was, even if I don't agree with its message. Excellent animation and an engaging short story. I have to appreciate how well done it was, even if I don’t agree with its message.

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]]> By: Sish http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/13/greenpeace-fights-whaling-with-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-82725 Sish Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:42:32 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2712#comment-82725 This is probably one of the most well done activist videos ever. Not only does it explain why they once did it, but that it isn't nessissary any more and they should return the favour. Great animation too. This is probably one of the most well done activist videos ever.

Not only does it explain why they once did it, but that it isn’t nessissary any more and they should return the favour.

Great animation too.

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