Comments on: Japanese Museums: Liberal Or Conservative? http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/07/04/japanese-museums-liberal-or-conservative/ Japan News Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:23:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: the overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/07/04/japanese-museums-liberal-or-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-68378 the overthinker Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:13:12 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2192#comment-68378 I didn't notice McTojo's comment before, but it's quite amusing in a way. Liberating Asia from Western imperialism? Certainly - by replacing it with Japanese imperialism. All Imperialist Conquerors are Equal - but some are more Equal than others...? McTojo is just getting carried away with the rhetoric and ignoring the reality. Some of the nutcases like to claim that because much of the colonial apparatus crumbled after WW2 that Japan did succeed in liberating Asia. This is needless to say a very self-serving view of history. I didn’t notice McTojo’s comment before, but it’s quite amusing in a way. Liberating Asia from Western imperialism? Certainly – by replacing it with Japanese imperialism. All Imperialist Conquerors are Equal – but some are more Equal than others…? McTojo is just getting carried away with the rhetoric and ignoring the reality. Some of the nutcases like to claim that because much of the colonial apparatus crumbled after WW2 that Japan did succeed in liberating Asia. This is needless to say a very self-serving view of history.

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]]> By: tony http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/07/04/japanese-museums-liberal-or-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-68344 tony Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:49:16 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2192#comment-68344 "I am a right wing nationalist. You have no sound logic to stand on when you condemn Japan for what she did through- out greater east asia. What Japan was doing was liberating asia from Western Imperialism. People like you seem to not be able to understand that." Are you insane? Have you heard of the Nanking Massacre? That's some wonderful liberating you've done there. There were atrocities committed by both sides in the war, and this outright denial and insistence that you were 'liberating' other countries is outright asinine. This is why I loathe right-wing nazis of any nationality. And yes you're an ignorant nazi. You're no better then those Neoconservative Republicans of America who still believe that the Iraq war is justified and 'spreading liberty and democracy'. To think that you can even justify your military actions in Asia, really its a joke. Japanese and American politics = Fascism and Imperialism. Liberalism and progression is the way. “I am a right wing nationalist. You have no sound logic to stand on when you condemn Japan for what she did through- out greater east asia. What Japan was doing was liberating asia from Western Imperialism. People like you seem to not be able to understand that.”

Are you insane? Have you heard of the Nanking Massacre? That’s some wonderful liberating you’ve done there. There were atrocities committed by both sides in the war, and this outright denial and insistence that you were ‘liberating’ other countries is outright asinine.

This is why I loathe right-wing nazis of any nationality. And yes you’re an ignorant nazi. You’re no better then those Neoconservative Republicans of America who still believe that the Iraq war is justified and ’spreading liberty and democracy’. To think that you can even justify your military actions in Asia, really its a joke.

Japanese and American politics = Fascism and Imperialism.

Liberalism and progression is the way.

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]]> By: McTojo http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/07/04/japanese-museums-liberal-or-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-63002 McTojo Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:46:51 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2192#comment-63002 Overthinker, I am a right wing nationalist. You have no sound logic to stand on when you condemn Japan for what she did through- out greater east asia. What Japan was doing was liberating asia from Western Imperialism. People like you seem to not be able to understand that. Of course our museums are conservative, common sense. The same could be said about the Enola Gay being on exhibit in the United States at the Smithsonian Institute. Overthinker,

I am a right wing nationalist. You have no sound logic to stand on when you condemn Japan for what she did through- out greater east asia. What Japan was doing was liberating asia from Western Imperialism. People like you seem to not be able to understand that.

Of course our museums are conservative, common sense. The same could be said about the Enola Gay being on exhibit in the United States at the Smithsonian Institute.

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]]> By: the overthinker http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/07/04/japanese-museums-liberal-or-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-61532 the overthinker Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:41:16 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2192#comment-61532 I tend to agree with Dresner's contesting of the Hiroshima Museum. It starts off with a clear depiction through a series of photos and explanations of just what Japan was doing in Asia that got everyone so mad, and makes it clear to anyone who reads them that Japan was doing some rather nasty things. The main area of dioramas and models is more "right wing" if you consider "victim mentality" to be right-wing, but it's churlish to find fault with that - it's a memorial to those who died, after all. Those "conservative" museums: kamikaze and naval tech museums, the Yushukan (not Yashukan as Dresner has it: it's also seidan (聖断) not seiden) are conservative? Well what a surprise there. Well well well. Never would have guessed. Basically, with a war museum, you're going to get pretty polarised views either way, depending on why the thing was built. Of more interest would be how normal history museums treat war memories. How places that are built to show a general, neutral, history are or are not distorted. I tend to agree with Dresner’s contesting of the Hiroshima Museum. It starts off with a clear depiction through a series of photos and explanations of just what Japan was doing in Asia that got everyone so mad, and makes it clear to anyone who reads them that Japan was doing some rather nasty things. The main area of dioramas and models is more “right wing” if you consider “victim mentality” to be right-wing, but it’s churlish to find fault with that – it’s a memorial to those who died, after all.

Those “conservative” museums: kamikaze and naval tech museums, the Yushukan (not Yashukan as Dresner has it: it’s also seidan (聖断) not seiden) are conservative? Well what a surprise there. Well well well. Never would have guessed. Basically, with a war museum, you’re going to get pretty polarised views either way, depending on why the thing was built. Of more interest would be how normal history museums treat war memories. How places that are built to show a general, neutral, history are or are not distorted.

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