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Disneyland in China?

May 2nd, 2007 by James

Important Update: After a wave of shame brought about by Japanese media coverage and a a few hundred thousand people around the world viewing this page, the amusement park appears is taking action to remove the most blatant violations….

Did I say Disneyland? I meant Shijingshan Amusement Park, an amusement park in Beijing that has absolutely nothing to do with Disney. Japanese bloggers seem to have recently discovered the existence of this park and have posted pictures of some of its characters:

Here we have an original Chinese duck character hanging out with one of the Beijing Olympics mascots.

Maybe this child is amazed by the inadequate size of the duck character’s shirt?

Some have claimed that the park is illegally copying Disney’s Minnie Mouse. However, the park’s operators have insisted that the character on the right is not a mouse. It is a cat with very large ears!

After some searching, I managed to find an English language news article that mentions this fine amusment park:

With its slogan “Disneyland is too far,” Beijing’s Shijingshan Amusement Park features a replica of Cinderella’s Castle, with staff dressed like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and other Disney characters.

None of this is authorized by Disney – but that has not stopped the state-owned park from creating its own counterfeit version of the Magic Kingdom in a brazen example of the sort of open and widespread copyright piracy that has Washington fuming.

The United States announced Monday it would file a case at the World Trade Organization over rampant copyright piracy in China, a practice which US companies say deprives them of billions of dollars each year.

But 31-year-old housewife Zhang Li betrays a typical Chinese attitude on the issue while chasing her young son around the park.

“I don’t understand why that is such a big problem. Shouldn’t others be able to use those characters besides [Disney]?” she asks.

No, no, lady. You’ve got it all wrong. They aren’t using Disney characters. It’s a big-eared cat, not a mouse. Come on!

Update: A few pictures from Japanese media coverage of the theme park (thanks, toru!):

A blue character that is not Doraemon and a Kitty that is not Hello Kitty.
More of the park’s original characters!
A couple of short guys with beards standing in front of one of the state-owned park’s rides.

A video news report:

The President of the park, who is interviewed in the video, tells them that nothing is copied from Disney and that all the characters are original creations (He also says the line about Mickey rip-off = big-eared cat). However, a little girl they encounter tells them that she sees Disney characters, and even the people inside the character costumes admit that they’re based on Disney’s creations. Whoops!

Update 2: A longer version of the same report

Update 3: A few more clips from the Japanese News about LOL Fake Disneyland in China:

Another program picks up the story:

A report with English subtitles:

Another report from the same channel that aired some of the other reports, this one with more footage of the rides and characters:

The last report makes a big deal out of the fact that the people inside of the character costumes regularly remove their masks. How unprofessional!!



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219 Comments

Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 00:03:29

It took a while for the pics to come in, and I was thinking “nah, this is probably just a case of Disney getting a little too precious for its own good – I mean, how could a cat, no matter how big its ears, be mistaken for a mouse?” Then I saw the pics. Wow. Disney lawyers would be drooling, if they imagined for a minute that they would have a hope in hell of enforcing any settlement.

This sentence reminds me of something… “However, the park’s operators have insisted that the character on the right is not a mouse. It is a cat with very large ears!” Seems a familiar idea to me…. “However, the country’s rulers have insisted that the Mao on the right is not a ruthless fanatic dictator. It is a saint with a very large heart!” And shouldn’t others be allowed to use Chinese-style communism other than Chinese? Why of course! At gunpoint, even, just to make it fairer!

Oh, and certainly everybody should be able to make money from the hard work of other people at no added cost to themselves. Why, I’d be ripping off internationally-respected Chinese brand names in a flash if there were any internationally-respected Chinese brand names to rip off (all sarcasm aside for once, I honestly can’t think of any. Are there any Chinese global brands, or is China just a massive cheap labour market relying on an almost infinite amount of poor peasant labour from the sticks in an exploitation of the masses that would have Marx doing several thousand rpm in his grave?)….

Comment by Garrett
2007-05-03 05:30:17

Well, there are Lenovo and Haier, but, in terms of branding, they’re second-tier at best.

Comment by Damien
2007-05-04 08:14:47

Lenovo is not a chinese creation. Lenovo is the name that was given to IBM’s personal computer division after it was bought by the Chinese.

Haier is not a “purely” chinese creation, either. It’s the name of the German partner who helped china revamp it’s company in the 90s.

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Comment by Jose
2007-05-04 09:37:47

ah.. no.. Lenovo was the name that Legend Group commissioned interbrand (probably paid millions) to come up with since “legend” would not make a good computer company name nor was it available to trademark internationally. “Lenovo” = Legend + innovation… see how easy it is to make millions of dollars.. ^_^

in short, Lenovo bought IBM’s personal computer division, IBM’s personal computer division did not have a name, maybe thinkpad, but that’s just a product line.

 
Comment by Vidar
2007-05-04 16:20:50

Lenovo (as Legend) was already one of the largest PC manufacturers in the world BEFORE they bought IBM’s PC division. After the acquisition it was propelled a lot higher up, and it’s now in the top 5.

 
 
Comment by PagingDoctorH
2007-05-04 15:41:11

I thought Lenovo was French owned, maybe I’m wrong. But yes, Haier is the only one I can think of.

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Comment by terracotta
2007-05-04 09:40:27

China more than likely been producing the costumes, merchansise and toys for disney for years. They are probably the cornerstone of every major manufacturer industry throughout the world.

So as far as I’m concern, It could be a matter of retribution. What is disney going to do? Not contract in China?, they’d collaspe, China pwns them!!

Comment by PagingDoctorH
2007-05-04 15:46:24

Actually, manufacturing will slowly move out of China anyway, most likely. There are poorer countries who will start taking chunks out of Chinese business in this area. If Disney wanted, it could certainly reinvest in Sri Lanka, or Bangladesh. You might say, “but they’ve sunk all this capital into China! They’d have to start over!” True, but if Disney is smart, they will see that the Yuan’s 8 to 1 exchange rate with the dollar is not going to last. Quite honestly, it probably isn’t worth the 7.65 it’s pegged at now. Watch what happens when it drops to 5, which is probably what it’s actually worth right now. All those “weird” South Asian currencies and markets will start looking pretty darn good.

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Comment by Tones
2007-05-04 15:59:27

No global Chinese Brand ? “Made in China”, I am sure you buy more of this brand than any other brand.

Comment by Dhodhott Markodhott
2007-05-04 22:30:27

Yes…Sure, that is internationaly recognized Chinese Brand…I will put it as a tattoo in my arm.
“Made in China” …..

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Comment by toru
2007-05-03 00:27:52
 
Comment by Akoua Doffou
2007-05-03 00:55:44

I don’t know what to say…what a cheap knockoff of Disney. “Disneyland is too far” is a sign that they are ripping Disney off.

Comment by BREW Ninja
2007-05-03 09:57:02

But, they have a Disneyland for China. The project was started while I still worked for the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim. It is Hong Kong Disneyland, despite the fact that it’s not in Hong Kong, and is actually on a man-made island specifically constructed for the Resort.

Comment by Svenski
2007-05-04 01:03:45

Hong Kong Disneyland IS in Hong Kong! It’s on Lantau Island, which is not man-made but is the largest of all the islands in Hong Kong. I know, I used to live on Lantau Island.

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Comment by Chris
2007-05-04 06:54:58

Actually, we built HKDL by reclaiming a bay, dredging up all of the mines from WWII and filling in the bay with millions of tons of earth. So yes, it is a man made island.

Chris

Comment by Der
2007-05-04 15:30:05

Lantau isn’t a man-made, and the land reclamation doesn’t really qualify as an ‘island’ since it is essentially an extension of existing land.
Also although Hong Kong is technically part of China, is isn’t regarded as the same place. Bit like the Vatican and Italy or Monaco and France etc.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Garrett
2007-05-03 05:34:37

This reminds me of one of the most dispiriting sights I saw in Nanjing – a small, blatant copy of Disneyland in a wretched state of decay. Perhaps it couldn’t compete with Beijing’s bigger, more convincing Disneyland ripoff a mere half day away by train.

And, dude, Shijingsan’s Duck has incongruous blue trouser legs (maybe he’s sagging); Donald Duck is full on pantless. This is clearly an original duck character.

Now that we’ve mocked this blatant piracy. Let’s see a virtual show of hands: How many people here had seen Spider-Man 3 before its worldwide release?

Anybody here buy a CD recently?

Comment by Dani
2007-05-03 12:53:00

People aren’t making money off of illegally downloading movies and music though.

Comment by Alexi
2007-05-03 22:01:46

You don’t think that Limewire, Kazaa, BitTorrent, etc. are making any money?

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Comment by Karisu
2007-05-04 01:51:13

I know for a fact that the BitTorrent protocol is not making any money.

 
 
Comment by Mikeypoo
2007-05-04 14:03:02

A penny saved is a penny earned!

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Comment by BREW Ninja
2007-05-03 09:55:12

Well, there is a Hong Kong Disneyland, the official personification of Disneyland for China.

Hong Kong Disneyland

 
Comment by trr
2007-05-03 10:30:37

Why the question marks on some photos? The Winnie the Pooh knockoff (first one with a question mark) is a Disney ripoff as well. Disney has rights to Winnie the Pooh characters now.

 
Comment by iamachink
2007-05-03 10:43:42

The point is they wouldnt have paid for licensing in the first place because they aren’t a money mongering business, it’s a state owned park. The purpose for ripping off these characters is for the people, not to suck in more customers. Unlike us rich bastards in USA and Japan, most people in China will never have to chance to go to a real Disneyland or afford a ton of real imports, so get over it, they’re the ones still getting shafted in the long run.

Comment by Jamie
2007-05-03 11:30:37

So…it’s the fault of the Japanese and American middle class that Chinese peasants are poor?

Sorry. I would have expected that it was the fault of the Chinese government and its fake wealth redistribution policy that nominally gives everybody money, but really just gives it to the government bosses and petty regional governors.

But no. You’re right. Goddamned rich Japanese and American bastards.

Comment by roboton
2007-05-03 22:37:46

Yes, it is exactly the fault of the Americans who continue to believe that being able to buy cheap shit from walmart is a god-given right guaranteed by the constitution.

Remember the classic line from the band Fugazi “Never mind what’s been selling, it’s what your buying”

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Comment by Karisu
2007-05-04 01:53:55

I’m sorry, but do you know any Americans? I’ve never heard of anyone thinking or saying that it is a god-given right to buy anything.

Let’s be a little more ignorant.

Comment by Ali
2007-05-04 13:48:22

Apparently you’ve never actually been to wall-mart :)

 
Comment by PagingDoctorH
2007-05-04 15:54:56

Wait a minute, back up. If China didn’t have manufacturing, they would never had had the chance to get out of their Communist caused depression. The whole point of the current economic resurgence has been to supply FOREIGN COUNTRIES with goods, not Chinese consumers. Investors went into China to invest not in intellectual property, which is plentiful in the US, but for cheap labor. It is that cheap labor which has contributed the rise of millions of Chinese out of poverty by introducing the most important product of all to the Chinese economy, dollars. Without rich Japanese and American consumers, there would be no economic boom in China.

 
 
 
 
Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 12:42:26

Ah, so the state is not in the business of making money…. This is a selfless act of generosity to its loyal citizens, then? But then rather than make a crude copy, shouldn’t they just pay for Disneyland holidays for all citizens? After all, Disneyland is far, far away…in Hong Kong, now part of China. I do hope the governments of Australia and NZ will also build fake Disneylands, as their citizens are about as far away from the real thing as you can get (and let’s not forget the African nations: after all, Mickey is one of the biggest black stars out there), and in the United Nations Declaration on Universal Human Rights, the right to experience Disneyland is just under the right to a fair trial (China’s working from the bottom to the top in this…).

Comment by yank_downunder
2007-05-04 08:54:57

Actually, the Aussies properly license their characters. There is a Warner Brothers theme park in Gold Coast, Queensland.

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Comment by Melissa
2007-05-04 06:54:49

While it’s a nice-sounding idea that the Chinese government is just trying to do something sweet for the poor people, I doubt you’d like it if you came up with an idea for a product, I stole it and made a copy of the product but justified it by saying it was for poor people. Regardless of who it’s for, I doubt you’re going to bother going to the effort of coming up with a good idea again… and that’s why we have an enforce intellectual property laws.

Things like patents and copyrights make sense once you realize that creating something, even when that something is an ‘idea’ like a Disney character, takes effort and money.

Comment by Thomas
2007-05-04 18:49:42

Of course it helps when your government is run by the entertainment industry and as a result gets nice little presents like… Um… 100+ year copyrights, generously extended anytime there is a risk of them expiring (you know, ‘cause they created once, so why create again?) and patents that are about as original as paper.

Somehow I don’t quite think this is what the founders had in mind (because it certainly isn’t what they wrote, or stated in the how-comes and why’s for what they wrote…). We’ve managed to put ourselves back a couple thousand years with all our protectionism. If you have children you’d best hope it turns out better then the last time knowledge was so thoroughly “protected” – you know, like how it took a thousand years to remember how to make concrete after the fall of Rome and the trade unions of their day…

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Comment by Benny
2007-05-04 20:29:28

Keep on believing that China can do whatever they want just because it’s a poor country, and some day you’ll wake up with the shaft extremely far up your a**.

 
 
Comment by Fox
2007-05-03 12:03:04

And hence…why my family fled out of China the first chance they got after the Communists “acquired” ownership of all land.

Comment by Seijuy
2007-05-04 17:16:38

Well, since they’re here… please tell them to drive at LEAST the speed limit, and stay in the FAR left lane. Also, no bartering so much too. :)

 
 
Comment by mo
2007-05-03 12:31:08

um, I’m REALLY surprised nobody has mentioned this, but hasn’t the copyright period on Mickey Mouse been artifically extended time after time by Disney lobbyists?

If copyright law was fairly enforced, many of the characters this park is using would actually be fair game as according to original copyright law they should fairly be part of the public domain now!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 12:52:46

I don’t know about “fairly” enforced (the law is the law, and it and fairness seldom have more than a nodding acquaintance), but it is possible that China is like Russia and not a signatory to the Berne Covention (”In several countries (e.g. in Russia, where the Berne convention was not applied retroactively) Mickey Mouse and all other copyrighted works created before 1970 are now regarded as being in the public domain.”). This would make the Disney stuff at least legal IN CHINA, though not sure about Hello Kitty and Doraemon….

Comment by gresrun
2007-05-04 14:21:24

China is a signatory according to Wikipedia

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Comment by Dani
2007-05-03 13:02:01

Mickey Mouse and the other characters aren’t copyrighted they are trademarked – copyrights run out but trademarks do not..

from wikipedia: “copyrights will eventually expire into the public domain but trademarks do not. Unlike patents and copyrights, which in theory are granted for one-off fixed terms, trademarks remain valid as long as the owner actively uses and defends them and maintains their registrations with the applicable jurisdiction’s trademarks office.”

The point is they are using trademarked characters.

Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 17:37:37

I gather that the issue/difference is that although stuff like Steamboat Willy will be free of copyright not too far in the future, the characters themselves, rather than the media they are in, are indeed trademarks and thus safe even if the early films creep into the public domain.

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Comment by madjo
2007-05-03 21:14:25

Then what is Disney so afraid of, that they have to plead for congress to extend copyright every so often?

Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 23:48:27

Steamboat Willy may not be a big money-spinner, but what about the feature films? When they come out of copyright, anyone in the world can copy and sell them (trademark issues aside).

 
 
 
Comment by Alexi
2007-05-03 22:04:44

And if the copyright on the film Steamboat Willy runs out, then what?

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Comment by Melissa
2007-05-04 06:57:59

“…hasn’t the copyright period on Mickey Mouse been artifically [sic] extended time after time by Disney lobbyists?”

No, it hasn’t. It’s been legally extended time after time by elected official in Congress. If you disagree, write them a letter. If you disagree with the entire process, write an amendment to the Constitution or a referendum on lobbying laws. Or move to a different country – where your copyrights won’t be protected at all. Can anyone think of one?

Comment by Karisu
2007-05-04 07:06:20

No, but I sure hope there is a country like that one day. It would be nice to live in a place of free ideas.

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Comment by Webweave
2007-05-04 12:58:57

The US framers had written that copyrights would be granted for a limited time to encourage the arts. Disney has bastardized this concept. Did you know that Disney also lobied for laws to prevent the artist who created the original works from joining in on any additional profits. If the Chinese want to copy Disney I feel sorry for them but it’s their country “Sovereign Nation” as we used to call it. Unless you also envision a world with one government.

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Comment by jet
2007-05-04 12:43:05

Someone may have mentioned this before, but even if the copyright had run out on the original Mickey Mouse characters, it would still be in effect for the more modern Mickey.

For example, look at these old Mickey Mouse designs:
http://www.jansworld.net/images/walt21.jpg

Compared to a more recent design:
http://www.cuddlybear.org/hello/693297/640/DSC01874-2006.02.18-14.33.27.jpg

 
 
Comment by Asuka
2007-05-03 13:13:40

I feel bitter. China is suffering a huge creativity and moral drain because everyone is too busy making money through the more “conventional” ways. Their justification for plaigiarism would make even Confucius ashamed.

Comment by Thes Quid
2007-05-04 14:36:38

Exactly. There are producers who COULD make a name for themselves with world-class products, but would rather use a foreign company’s intellectual property/trademark. Another thing: People posting seem to equate State Owned = Non-profit. Absolutely NOT! That merely means whatever company you are talking about was not founded by an individual, but is still controlled bu the State.

 
Comment by Mister Disny
2007-05-04 15:43:30

We are the proud chinese because we make the itms for you Americans,we can’t do the originally create because we no have smart creative.copy copy wenzhou is yes because emtpty town going to abroad to make copy lands,for you guys.Everybody country buys the best copy from the best in the China has 5000 years history.American only 200 years is the nothing.copy right and trade makers are for the other lands,because we are now poor but rich future is pleasnat for Chinese.

 
 
Comment by echu
2007-05-03 13:20:12

well, after you mass produce fake prada bags and nike shoes, you just have to aim bigger :) anything other than this would have been a step down.

 
Comment by todd
2007-05-03 13:38:24

For those who have wanted to use Disney copyrighted characters this could be a serious loophole. All one would have to say is that they didn’t copy Disney characters, they copied characters from the Shijingshan Amusement Park. As the park’s operators have said, ” the character on the right is not a mouse. It is a cat with very large ears”!

 
Comment by peter panic
2007-05-03 15:30:48

ummm… everything disney sells is made by chinese sweatshops. as an american i only have one question: how can i profit off of this infringement? i’ll bet its a great opportunity to finally dump that asbestos stockpile…

 
Comment by jas
2007-05-03 15:44:12

It all looks like an elaborate and wonderful joke, the website is called BSAP or bs amusement park. got it is so funny im sure its real as its just so huge but i guess its so staggeringly unbeleivable that it just seems like a spoof! love it!

 
Comment by Annie
2007-05-03 15:56:58

If they wanted to have Micky Mouse in China, at least they can do is ask for permission. I find that it is pure stubborness if he thinks he did not ripped off from Disney’s characters. What happen to the Chinese culture lately? Like someone had stated above, people will do anything for a dollar.

Comment by Melissa
2007-05-04 06:59:46

That’s why we have copyright laws – not only should they ask, they are required to. Not that we have any way of enforcing global copyrights, unfortunately…

 
 
Comment by Richard
2007-05-03 17:33:31

Its not really as if Disney or americans are losing money on this. Not one of the people visiting this park would ever be able to afford to go to a real disneyland overseas, so the money they spend here (very small amounts anyway, on a global scale) would never ever have ended up in disney coffers anyway.

Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 17:42:01

Sure, maybe Disney aren’t losing much money here. But that’s not really the point, as shown by how vicious some companies are going after fan sites etc. The issue is one of wedges, thin ends thereof. If some crapola amusement (sic) park in Beijing can get away with, then the gates are opened to other imitations, even more heinous (though this is pretty bad frankly).

And the idea that no one in Beijing visiting this place can afford to go to even Hong Kong or Tokyo, let alone LA, is just plain wrong. The big cities of China are not that poor – there’s a hundred million middle-class Chinese in them, more than enough to provide a good source of overseas tourism.

 
Comment by Melissa
2007-05-04 07:01:10

Actually, the fact that this park is a success at all indicates that Disney is losing money from it – they are losing all of the profits that the park should be paying them to use their copyrighted ideas.

Comment by Anonymous Coward
2007-05-04 14:23:28

You can’t “lose” something that you never had in the first place.

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Comment by WoWAddict
2007-05-04 20:22:31

Sorta like your virginity? Since you only used your hands and the cat, you’re technically still a virgin?

 
 
 
 
Comment by Amby
2007-05-03 17:53:51

Yeah, and then there is the american Disney corporation with their Lion King – Kimba ripoff.. ;)

Shows exactly why the copyright laws are broken.

Comment by Tadashi
2007-05-03 19:37:18

Don’t forget the Nadia/Atlantis drama.

 
 
Comment by walter
2007-05-03 22:51:39

hasn’t the copyright on Mickey Mouse expired yet?????????

What is more dishonest, using characters that by all rights should have slipped into public domain, or manipulating a corrupt political process that more and more only protects the rich, and then enforcing that evil on the rest of the world like a mafia godfather?

Comment by Melissa
2007-05-04 07:04:15

No, the copyright hasn’t expired on Mickey Mouse. If you think the entire democratic process is flawed, only protects the rich, etc., that’s a valid complaint, but not a valid complaint against either the concept of copyright law or the length America allows it to exist for.

Think about this – if I build a house (assuming I own the land as well), I can leave it to my kids, who can leave it to theirs, forever and ever as long as the house exists. At no point does it ever “slip into public domain.” Intellectual property (like these Disney characters) is not substantially different than other property – except that they are easier to steal/use without permission.

Comment by Thomas
2007-05-04 19:08:02

Judging by all your comments I’d say you must make your living trying to ram down everyone’s throat what non of the rest of us want. A house is nothing like an idea, of which Disney would have very few if things like Grimm’s fairy tales had the same for ever copyrights they are obviously after. It is, after all, where almost all of “their” stories came from. And no, you don’t get to just give your kids your house – the Government comes in and says “Um, there is thus thing we call the inheritance tax… and you owe!”. I know, we just paid quite a hefty sum to keep the family farm in the family. In America you don’t “own” anything, you rent it, and for as long as you can afford the property taxes you can even say “you own it”.

Fail to pay the inheritance tax and watch it slip into the “public domain” – at least until the government can sell it. And it’s interesting that you seem to know little of the founder’s original thinking – a very limited “monopoly” was granted in the hopes it would encourage continuing inventiveness. They also held the idea that if you granted such for ever there would be just as little incentive to continue creating anything as if there was none to begin with. It was a balance, and one we are obviously to selfish and greedy to recognize anymore. Is it thus any wonder the rest of the world has begun to flip the finger at it all?

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Comment by mystic101
2007-05-04 19:55:39

True. But i can build a house that look’s exactly like that house and use it for my own, sell it or do whatever I like to it. I can then build another house and repeat this to the end of my day’s.

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Comment by Doctor Henry Wu
2007-05-03 23:04:13

Hey, at least it’s somewhat better work for the prisoners. They get out of their tiny cells and wearing a sneezy suit beats tying strings to unlicensed SpongeBob air fresheners all day………

Comment by the overthinker
2007-05-03 23:53:39

Ah, but then at night, still in their “Oversized Eared Cat” suits they are forced to tie strings to unlicensed Spongebob (”No, this is actually a Chinese dragon called Baobu”. With funny trousers.”). And have you ever tried to tie string wearing thick Disney-style gloves? No wonder Goofy was always having accidents….

 
 
Comment by j
2007-05-04 00:27:46

DISNEY RIPS TOO!

Lion King:
http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm

 
Comment by Zazoo
2007-05-04 00:49:38

Everything in China is counterfeit. I went there a couple of years ago and a business man there told us that he’d purchased fake Coca-cola. He’s heard of fake BMW’s being made. I purchased a pack of what I thought were Duracell batterys and on the packaging was a picture of the Energizer bunny. They can’t even get the logos right.

The lesson is, if you go there and see something name-brand and the price looks too good to be true. It is. Because it’s counterfeit.

Comment by Kevin
2007-05-04 14:59:32

So? If it’s the same quality product, why do you care?

If it isn’t, though — well then yeah, I can see the problem.

This is the price the world pays for cheap chinese labor. If Disney has a problem with this park, maybe they should think about how little they’re paying for all the shit they charge consumers in the U.S. outrageous prices for.

I remember how, at University, my professors would explain that it doesn’t matter if all manufacturing is going to China, because wealthy countries are primarily producers of intellectual property.

Woops!

 
 
Comment by luzzio
2007-05-04 01:54:13

that original duck with no pants looks scarily disproportionate…

china piracy ftw!

 
Comment by Aaron
2007-05-04 04:15:00

Tear that place down. It is destructive to the Disney name and the characters we all love an adore. Once again the Chinese have no respect for the rest of the world. Let alone have any original ideas of their own. This makes me sick.

 
Comment by Nick
2007-05-04 05:06:57

The saddest thing is that this shows how Chinese people lack creativity and respect for rules. A typical Chinese reaction is “hey we don’t care we do whatever we want” and then they simply lie to cover things up. Part of the problem is poverty, and poverty = lack of education for most people. It also means people would do anything for a dollar, as someone pointed out. Sad sad sad, it makes modern Chinese culture totally uncool.

 
Comment by Rasti
2007-05-04 07:32:50

There is another (sort of) in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
It is said that Walt disney was inspired on this one to build disneyland, as a matter of fact, was open to the public four years BEFORE Disneyland.
It was entirely built to scale so the children could fit as adults.
The construction was promoted by Eva Peron (remember Madonna in the movie Evita)

Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=republica+de+los+ni%C3%B1os
Homepage: http://www.republica.laplata.gov.ar/historia/inicio.htm
Wikipedia: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rep%C3%BAblica_de_los_Ni%C3%B1os
Wikipedia English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland#Concept_and_construction

 
Comment by Ashley
2007-05-04 08:46:00

I keep hearing people say it’s for the poor, it’s too far away etc. Gee I didn’t know L.A and China were so far away. Anyway, has anyone here ever been to an amusement park? It’s a rip off. They over charge on everything and you want me to honestly believe that this guy isn’t doing that there? So exactly how poor are these people? It’s also not that cheap to get through the gates.

 
Comment by Syd
2007-05-04 10:54:00

What is comes down to is just disregard for the law. China and the US honor the same copyright laws (and trademark to be correct). Though Disney has done shady stuff to keep the copyright, the fact remains they do OWN themselves. Therefor, this is breaking copyright and is illegal.
Just because I want to be rich doesn’t mean I can rob a bank…. follow the laws like JAPAN and the USA, not to mention the entire EU and then… maybe then, with a mix of human rights, China could become wealthy.

 
Comment by qAaRoN
2007-05-04 11:15:54

Screw China. The lawyers for Disney should shut them down. “I don’t understand why that is such a big problem. Shouldn’t others be able to use those characters besides [Disney]?” she asks. Yeah, pay for it like other people have to. Too many people get away with too much shit anymore.

 
Comment by Jeff Barea
2007-05-04 13:53:39

What liberal should care?

Disney is a part of the MSM so roundly hated.

Besides, defending Disney’s trademarks is defending capitalism…

Amazing how easy to let cognitive dissonance creep in…

 
Comment by TFC
2007-05-04 14:37:15

This is how Communists and Totalitarian regimes compensate for their own lack of creativity… they steal it

 
Comment by Mike
2007-05-04 14:49:20

This is the ultimate in patheticness.
Why do people from Asia always try to emulate and immitate the west and especially the Americans.
The worshipping and immitating is so sad and pathetic.
I physically hurts seeing this weird chilidish look-at-me-look-at-me simulation.

 
Comment by Dan
2007-05-04 15:01:02

Just one more reason to boycott the Olympic Games in China. They are no better than common thieves or pickpockets.

 
Comment by AJ
2007-05-04 15:01:13

Well, the US “mickey mouse” senators keep on increasing copyright – and tries to force the rest of the world to match the copyright terms with them.

Guess China good pissed off with the copyright term increases.

Good for you China.

I wish all other countries have real limited copyrights, as it’s supposed to be, instead of expanding the terms whenever mickey mouse and co. is about to become public domain.

 
Comment by John Ross
2007-05-04 15:10:01

LMFAO
Thats all i can say. Whats good for the goose … ect
Disney steals sh*t all the time

“The Lion King” was a 100% rip off of “Kimba The White Lion”
http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm

Atlantis was a rip off of Nadia

Epcot Center was stolen from Mark Waters’ 1961 painting for Miniature World, based on a U.S. Air Force officer’s concept,

“Finding Nemo” was a straight up rip off of “Finding Nero” a french animated film

Plus there are lawsuits (try google) against them for Monsters Inc. , The Pirates of the Caribbean , to name a few.

Not to mention this crap they keep pulling “BUY CINDERELLA NOW …LAST TIME ON DVD…IF YOU DONT GET IT NOW YOU NEVER WILL…..WHAT KIND OF PARENT ARE YOU TO NOT WANT YOUR LITTLE GIRL TO WATCH THIS CLASSIC….HURRY TIMES RUNNING OUT.”

Or the fact that Steamboat Willy and alot of the older Disney stuff SHOULD be in public domain by now. Personaly I could give a Rats a$$ about steambaot willy (bad pun sorry) but by paying off lawmakers so they can make a few extra bucks of off micky (instead of thinking of something new) we all suffer becasue the public domain suffers

If Walt Disney were alive today do you know what he’d say????

LET ME THE HELL OUT !! ITS COLD IN HERE
then hed see what they have done with his magical ideas and kill himself

 
Comment by kris
2007-05-04 15:30:57

Disneylands should invested in China and build the real disney theme park, so this fake disneyland will be dissapear, i have been to HK disneylands, and the visitors that spend most are the Mainland Chinese. so why not Disney goes to China.

 
Comment by ChinkH8er4Life
2007-05-04 15:40:05

I pray to G-Sus every night that the Chinee will keep investing heavily in Africa, buying up natural resources, and then some jumped up insurgents will topple the existing regimes, and “nationalize” all those resources. Who will they comlain to then? Will they understand issues of ownership then?

All that and a good case of bird flu.

 
Comment by tsskk_tsskk
2007-05-04 15:43:33

I don’t care who do what or what they get !!

I’m just wondering why they can’t come up with a ‘copy’ of something but make it looks original so that they can avoid all this hoo-haas !! Like DonaldDuck wearing Read while Mickey wears Blue !! They got to buy all those materials and sew them anyway !! Don’t they hv any artist that can come up with some simple original characters ?? It’s not like it’s going to make any difference anyway !! In fact if their original characters took off, they can even get copyrights for it .. who knows the US and even Japan might even want to purchase the rights to hv them !!!!

Why they can’t come up with something original within their budget really boggles my mind !!.. Make it a fun place and affordable, and ppl will flock to come no matter what characters, builidings or games u hv in there !! Maybe it’s just a smart tactic they hv for some cheap publicity to get you ppl go there to hv a look, then they can start charging a ‘bomb’ for tourist !!

 
Comment by JM
2007-05-04 15:46:06

So what? Disney has been ripping off French (Cinderella, Beauty & The Beast, etc.), German, and even Chinese fairy tales and others for ages and many clueless people in this country (I mean, the US) think that Disney came up with those stories and own them. Screw them! They get a taste of their own medicine now. Clueless Americans always complain that others are ripping them off but they’re doing their fair share of ripping off too.

 
Comment by WHOCARES
2007-05-04 15:52:47

Come on people, who cares. The chinese are an oppressed culture let them have a little fun. Humanity is lucky they didn’t lure everyone into a death bus(http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5754) at the park and harvest organs. FUCK!

 
Comment by Gleth
2007-05-04 16:55:00

If it wasn’t for the fact that Disney is constantly getting the IP laws changed, to the detriment of everyone else, then I would indeed feel sorry for them over this. I like Disney’s cartoon and films (mostly, some of the live action stuff is dire IMO) but the way they keep getting the copyright period extended every time Micky Mouse might fall into the public domain makes me very ambivalent about the company.

 
Comment by Lao
2007-05-04 20:39:13

/sarc on

Hahah all of you people are just picking on the Chinese because you are racist xenophobic bigots

Obviously this calls for a little “tolerance training”

/sarc off

Doen’t CAIR have a Chinese counterpart in the USA yet.

Lao

 
Comment by Ronnie
2007-05-04 22:53:34

Obviously there are lots or artist’s in China too…

hahaha

 
Comment by P-Pika
2007-05-05 19:24:09

What a shame….

 

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