Comments on: High school flooded with phone calls after 2-channel posting reveals bullying http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/ Japan News Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:20:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Nippon http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-382065 Nippon Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:26:54 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-382065 Humans have fists and legs for a reason, people should make good use of them in these tense situations. Humans have fists and legs for a reason, people should make good use of them in these tense situations.

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]]> By: Joe http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-380142 Joe Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:34:56 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-380142 Does your child get bullied in school? Do you wish there was something you could do to make your child feel more confident? Well, we can help! A prominent cable television show is now casting in New York City and the surrounding Tri-state area. We are currently looking for a family where a child has been bullied in school. We want to work with you to boost your child's self confidence and help them live a more enjoyable life. Please email us your story. joep@sharpentertainment.com Does your child get bullied in school? Do you wish there was something you could do to make your child feel more confident? Well, we can help!

A prominent cable television show is now casting in New York City and the surrounding Tri-state area. We are currently looking for a family where a child has been bullied in school. We want to work with you to boost your child’s self confidence and help them live a more enjoyable life.

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]]> By: Jamie http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-6994 Jamie Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:31:56 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-6994 That is so mean! I hate it when people bully eachother. When I was in six grade, a bunch of people bully me and I was really terrified; but guess what? I'm here and still alive today. I havn't commit sucide yet. But hopefully I won't. Thanks for reading. That is so mean! I hate it when people bully eachother. When I was in six grade, a bunch of people bully me and I was really terrified; but guess what? I’m here and still alive today. I havn’t commit sucide yet. But hopefully I won’t. Thanks for reading.

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]]> By: Hokkaido School Board tries bullying a blogger » 世論 What Japan Thinks - Japanese Opinion Polls, Marketing Data and Japanese Market Research Translated into English http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-3714 Hokkaido School Board tries bullying a blogger » 世論 What Japan Thinks - Japanese Opinion Polls, Marketing Data and Japanese Market Research Translated into English Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:02:26 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-3714 [...] Desparate to cover up a bullying incident in one of their schools, a Mr Masayuki Akiyama of the Hokkaido Board of Education plucks a few spurious reasons out of nowhere as to why James at Japan Probe should remove not just the allegedly human rights-infringing images, but the whole post as, I suspect, he merely feels it reflects badly on his Education Department. James made a very good and reasoned reply, but now as it seems that Mr Akiyama has the “get English-speaking lackey to email blogger” task ticked off on his to-do list, he has not had the courtesy to follow up on James’ request for clarification. [...] [...] Desparate to cover up a bullying incident in one of their schools, a Mr Masayuki Akiyama of the Hokkaido Board of Education plucks a few spurious reasons out of nowhere as to why James at Japan Probe should remove not just the allegedly human rights-infringing images, but the whole post as, I suspect, he merely feels it reflects badly on his Education Department. James made a very good and reasoned reply, but now as it seems that Mr Akiyama has the “get English-speaking lackey to email blogger” task ticked off on his to-do list, he has not had the courtesy to follow up on James’ request for clarification. [...]

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]]> By: Japan Probe -Japan News & Culture Blog » Blog Archive » Hokkaido Board of Education accuses Japan Probe of violating the human rights of students http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-3705 Japan Probe -Japan News & Culture Blog » Blog Archive » Hokkaido Board of Education accuses Japan Probe of violating the human rights of students Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:49:13 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-3705 [...] On November 27th I received the following e-mail regarding my November 10th post, in which I applauded 2-channel users who brought attention to the rampant bullying in a certain Hokkaido school: From: kyoiku.sports1@pref.hokkaido.lg.jp To: japanprobe Date: Nov 27, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Please allow me to urgently request your cooperation in a serious matter. [...] [...] On November 27th I received the following e-mail regarding my November 10th post, in which I applauded 2-channel users who brought attention to the rampant bullying in a certain Hokkaido school: From: kyoiku.sports1@pref.hokkaido.lg.jp To: japanprobe Date: Nov 27, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Please allow me to urgently request your cooperation in a serious matter. [...]

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]]> By: James (admin) http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-2854 James (admin) Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:44:11 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-2854 Someone: They might be able to bully after school, in between class, or in the bathrooms, but they are also able to blatantly bully kids, both physically and verbally, in the middle of classes.(At least they are at the 4 schools I've worked at) There have been dozens of class I have witnessed kids shout insults at other students in the middle of classes, shout out that a girl is ugly, make fun of other students, and even punch or kick them. Do the Japanese teachers who are in charge of the class actually do anything? Rarely. The most I've seen one do is shout a bit, but in the end there is no actual punishments dealt out to unruly students. Joel has it right: there is no system in place for punishing unruly asshole/bully students. I've been assistant-teaching in classes 3 or 4 times where bullies have reduced students to tears, yet all the teacher does is tell the bully to stop and continue along with the lesson as the bullied kid cries his/her eyes out on their desk. It often seems that the teachers simply don't give a shit, since they are already overworked with bullshit work and countless meetings that make their working hours far longer than teachers in America. Is the American system perfect and bullying-free? No. But at least it actually punishes bullies when they are discovered. Hell, my middle/high schools in America even punished/suspended students if it was found out they had bullied other students outside of school. Sure, there are huge cultural issues that lead to bullying in Japan, but they could at least reduce the problem by actually punishing bullies. Someone:

They might be able to bully after school, in between class, or in the bathrooms, but they are also able to blatantly bully kids, both physically and verbally, in the middle of classes.(At least they are at the 4 schools I’ve worked at)

There have been dozens of class I have witnessed kids shout insults at other students in the middle of classes, shout out that a girl is ugly, make fun of other students, and even punch or kick them. Do the Japanese teachers who are in charge of the class actually do anything? Rarely. The most I’ve seen one do is shout a bit, but in the end there is no actual punishments dealt out to unruly students. Joel has it right: there is no system in place for punishing unruly asshole/bully students.

I’ve been assistant-teaching in classes 3 or 4 times where bullies have reduced students to tears, yet all the teacher does is tell the bully to stop and continue along with the lesson as the bullied kid cries his/her eyes out on their desk. It often seems that the teachers simply don’t give a shit, since they are already overworked with bullshit work and countless meetings that make their working hours far longer than teachers in America.

Is the American system perfect and bullying-free? No. But at least it actually punishes bullies when they are discovered. Hell, my middle/high schools in America even punished/suspended students if it was found out they had bullied other students outside of school. Sure, there are huge cultural issues that lead to bullying in Japan, but they could at least reduce the problem by actually punishing bullies.

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]]> By: Joel http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-2853 Joel Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:44:04 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-2853 The other problem is that all kids in Japan have the "right" to attend class so you can't kick them out for being disruptive. I've never heard of things like detention, suspension and expulsion, which are how the U.S. schools deal with the bad seeds. Japanese parents also "makase" their kids entirely to the shcool. SOme of those kids are downright rotten and it should not be the sole responsibility of the school to punish them. If I got caught doing someting bad/stupid at school, I got in trouble at home, too. That is how it goes. Japan is trying to enter the 21st century with 1950s era systems. Shit is gonna get worse before it gets better The other problem is that all kids in Japan have the “right” to attend class so you can’t kick them out for being disruptive. I’ve never heard of things like detention, suspension and expulsion, which are how the U.S. schools deal with the bad seeds.

Japanese parents also “makase” their kids entirely to the shcool. SOme of those kids are downright rotten and it should not be the sole responsibility of the school to punish them.

If I got caught doing someting bad/stupid at school, I got in trouble at home, too. That is how it goes.

Japan is trying to enter the 21st century with 1950s era systems. Shit is gonna get worse before it gets better

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]]> By: Someone http://www.japanprobe.com/2006/11/10/high-school-flooded-with-phone-calls-after-2-channel-posting-reveals-bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-2850 Someone Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:09:01 +0000 http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=688#comment-2850 I'm not really sure how Japanese school officials need to "deal" with this problem. Obviously there is some amount of negligence on their part, but it's also clear that there are some deep-rooted cultural reasons for the bullying. Officials at schools in the US don't "do" much about bullying. As long as the abuse isn't physical, there isn't much that they CAN do either -- officials really have no control over what is said on the school bus, what is said in hallways between classes, what is said while in the restroom, at football games, and so on. The American public could have pinned events like Columbine on school officials, stating that they should have noticed how the two kids were always made fun of for wearing trench coats and such, but instead the blame fell mostly on the parents of the children. Yes, schools do play a "third parent" type role in a child's life in Japan (certainly a far greater part than a school does in the US), but the responsibility for solving the problem shouldn't be placed on the school alone. I'm not saying the problem should be completely ignored, but let's realize that the scope of responsibility here extends far beyond the school officials. The parents, students themselves, and even Japanese society itself (which may be part of the reason the bullied students just accept the reality of their situation, rather than lashing out) are just as responsible. I’m not really sure how Japanese school officials need to “deal” with this problem. Obviously there is some amount of negligence on their part, but it’s also clear that there are some deep-rooted cultural reasons for the bullying.

Officials at schools in the US don’t “do” much about bullying. As long as the abuse isn’t physical, there isn’t much that they CAN do either — officials really have no control over what is said on the school bus, what is said in hallways between classes, what is said while in the restroom, at football games, and so on. The American public could have pinned events like Columbine on school officials, stating that they should have noticed how the two kids were always made fun of for wearing trench coats and such, but instead the blame fell mostly on the parents of the children. Yes, schools do play a “third parent” type role in a child’s life in Japan (certainly a far greater part than a school does in the US), but the responsibility for solving the problem shouldn’t be placed on the school alone.

I’m not saying the problem should be completely ignored, but let’s realize that the scope of responsibility here extends far beyond the school officials. The parents, students themselves, and even Japanese society itself (which may be part of the reason the bullied students just accept the reality of their situation, rather than lashing out) are just as responsible.

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